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Old 07-10-2024, 12:38 PM
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It's interesting to consider the tradeoff of subbing a Ranger in over the Monk or Rogue. Is the benefit of the Ranger slow proc worth sacrificing the raw DPS of the Rogue and the numerous benefits of the Monk? It's an extra 20% over Bard slow, and the Bard would obviously rather be playing something else. So... Maybe?? But then who do you drop for the Ranger? The Monk or Rogue? With three solid pullers in Pal/Brd/Rng, you can probably get by without FD. So I'd lean toward the Rogue.
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Old 07-10-2024, 12:41 PM
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The other big thing you get from Rogues is Mana Sieve, but only against stuff where you can land poison effects since their version is resistable. Still, there's probably a decent number of mobs that can only be realistically killed with a rogue or more in the group to sieve it out, I don't think bard mana drain is usually enough and none of the other melees get and mana drain as far as I know.
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Old 07-10-2024, 01:19 PM
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It's interesting to consider the tradeoff of subbing a Ranger in over the Monk or Rogue. Is the benefit of the Ranger slow proc worth sacrificing the raw DPS of the Rogue and the numerous benefits of the Monk? It's an extra 20% over Bard slow, and the Bard would obviously rather be playing something else. So... Maybe?? But then who do you drop for the Ranger? The Monk or Rogue? With three solid pullers in Pal/Brd/Rng, you can probably get by without FD. So I'd lean toward the Rogue.
Ranger also adds +13hp/tick/character, a truck load of attack and some more ac.
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Old 07-10-2024, 01:30 PM
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Best off meta trio I ever experienced was bard / monk / rogue (all epic / fungi). We were all about level 56/57 or so and trio'd slabs in the hole. We never had a single second of downtime for a few hours.

Was insane xp.

So yeah, throw a paladin in there and you'd prob make less xp/hour while leveling but would add immense horsepower for killing beefier targets.
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Old 07-10-2024, 03:07 PM
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. Is the benefit of the Ranger slow proc worth sacrificing the raw DPS of the Rogue and the numerous benefits of the Monk?.
You guys keep bringing up Ranger slows Ö which are procs and unreliable.

Have you forgotten that bards can slow things on demand? The slow may be less than 50% but it can be applied from the very start. Bard ripping aggro isnít really a problem anymore after the song aggro nerf
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Old 07-10-2024, 03:34 PM
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You guys keep bringing up Ranger slows Ö which are procs and unreliable.

Have you forgotten that bards can slow things on demand? The slow may be less than 50% but it can be applied from the very start. Bard ripping aggro isnít really a problem anymore after the song aggro nerf
bard initial slow is ofc good when you dont have a direct healer, but ill take the 50% eventually, especially on bigger mobs
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Old 07-10-2024, 06:42 PM
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Fair enough but given the streaky nature of the slow procs my warrior and ranger has Ö whatever you were fighting might well have died (35% slowed) before you get that first proc.
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Old 07-10-2024, 09:39 PM
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Hard to think of anything better than monk x3 and a bard
Paladin the next most likely to include because soulfire and rez are cool
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Old 07-10-2024, 09:39 PM
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Old 07-10-2024, 09:46 PM
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