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”Unofficially speaking, AC camp, sure. If you are next at the list I would stay near by so the trade off can happen quickly. If the list keeper gets his spawn and leaves and you are not there, you can lose the camp. For SF, I find it dumb to have to stay in the zone for that long. But if you wish to keep your spot it's in your best interest to be there during the spawns.
The thing is, lists are really driven by the players, if you are the list keeper it's in your rights to tell people if they want on the list, they must stay in the zone. Here's the thing folks, we want people to have fun, but there are lots of players who like to abuse what we say and what few rules we have out there. If we suspect you are lawyerquesting or being a dick, we have no issue suspending you for PNP. If you feel I'm not being fair, go speak to Llandris, Braknar or Sirken. Don't be a jerk to me, I'm really here to help you guys enjoy the game. If you ever need help understanding how a camp in particular works, don't be afraid of posting in the petitions / exploits forums asking a question, I'm happy to work it out with you. But keep in mind, we don't have solid rules written down for specific camps because every situation is different, but we do state guidelines here and there.” This really isn’t complicated. Camp holder decides and as long as he is still online he can give the camp to whomever he wants. In this case there is a list and camp holder agreed to let people onto the list who’re playing their alts, this is fine as long as they’re able to show up in reasonable time to take over. It’s really not that hard. The only unknown (to me) is if someone betrays the /list and starts corpsing rings or giving it to their guild instead. | ||
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The only language we have to go on, officially, is that you have to wait "a reasonable amount of time" if you want to take a camp from someone. So if someone is going to give a camp to their guildie, but you wait 20 seconds, and they don't engage, you can take the camp ... as long as you're willing to bet that if a GM shows up, they consider 20 seconds "reasonable". (I would, but I'm no GM.)
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But still, with the "in general" and "or so" in there, it almost amounts to as much as "a reasonable amount of time". All we know is that if you wait at least two minutes you can probably take a camp from someone who claims there's someone on a list incoming ... but even that's not certain. And it's also unclear ... let's say I get to AC and it's up, but someone is sitting there claiming their guildie is inc. If I wait one minute, then kill the AC, will I get in trouble? All it would take is one sentence from the staff (eg. "You only get the right to rekill a mob you killed previously for exactly one minute after it spawns") to eliminate so much disagreement between players.
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https://wiki.project1999.com/Camp_Rules Link to camp rules,with GM's take on it quoted. Note where it says camp holder can pass to whoever they want. This is obviously shitty of the person and most people will follow a player held list, but not doing so is right in the rulings as ok. | |||
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Again, it's absolutely unclassic and a terrible policy ... but I don't think the staff wants it .... they just don't want to have to babysit every single camp exchange in the game either, and they don't want to eliminate handing off camps to friends/guildmates entirely, so I think they see it as the lesser of two evils.
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