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Old 12-19-2022, 02:08 PM
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I've been thinkin about rolling a paladin... Is it possible solo 40+?
Yes. Both Shadowknights and Paladins are pretty good at soloing 1-60, due to having spells. That being said, the number of spots you can solo will be more limited than a dedicated caster like an Enchanter, Shaman, Necromancer, etc. Luckily Guards are generally easy to camp since they aren't casters, so you can level up to 55 killing guards while making money.

Typically it will be slower too, since Shadowknights and Paladins are bottlenecked by their mana. Their max mana pools are lower, and their spells are less mana efficient. Getting clickies and Flowing Thought items will alleviate mana issues quite a bit. You just need to get to level 45 so you can start using the clickies, and ideally join a raiding guild to get the Flowing Thought items.

You can buy a Narandi Crown since it isn't No Drop, but it will cost you a lot of money if you don't like raiding. For Flowing Thought I you can do the Shawl quests, which are doable without a guild.
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Old 12-19-2022, 02:11 PM
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I've been thinkin about rolling a paladin... Is it possible solo 40+?
Yeah I solo'd the entire way.

Buy lots of 10 dose Kilva's. DS pots make a huge difference.

Cannot understate how good Narandi Crown is. Throwing a shawl on top must be nice.

But yeah, narandi / fungi / haste / reaver / good cha gets you to 45 then you can start clicking Deepwater BP.

I'd definitely start 1-22 ish in the warrens. Then you get a hole key and can do entrance 50-55.

I did warrens --> perma --> CT to 43/44. Even for a paladin the zems are so bonkers it'll go by fast and they're actually pretty fun dungeons to play in.
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Old 12-19-2022, 02:51 PM
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Yeah I solo'd the entire way.

Buy lots of 10 dose Kilva's. DS pots make a huge difference.

Cannot understate how good Narandi Crown is. Throwing a shawl on top must be nice.

But yeah, narandi / fungi / haste / reaver / good cha gets you to 45 then you can start clicking Deepwater BP.

I'd definitely start 1-22 ish in the warrens. Then you get a hole key and can do entrance 50-55.

I did warrens --> perma --> CT to 43/44. Even for a paladin the zems are so bonkers it'll go by fast and they're actually pretty fun dungeons to play in.

Is DW breastplate better than Fungi at 45+? I am getting tired of Druid and might throw Manastone on a paladin lul.

EDIT: See the HP gain on it -- pretty nice. Just gotta carry around Jaspers. but its actually more efficient than Elder Spiritist Greaves + Fungi + Fungi Staff on druid
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Old 12-19-2022, 02:56 PM
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Is DW breastplate better than Fungi at 45+? I am getting tired of Druid and might throw Manastone on a paladin lul.

EDIT: See the HP gain on it -- pretty nice. Just gotta carry around Jaspers. but its actually more efficient than Elder Spiritist Greaves + Fungi + Fungi Staff on druid
You use both.

Fungi in combat and swap to deepwater bp to heal.

Manastone on a paladin would be...a luxury for sure.
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Old 12-19-2022, 06:52 PM
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Is DW breastplate better than Fungi at 45+? I am getting tired of Druid and might throw Manastone on a paladin lul.

EDIT: See the HP gain on it -- pretty nice. Just gotta carry around Jaspers. but its actually more efficient than Elder Spiritist Greaves + Fungi + Fungi Staff on druid
Manastone is a waste on a pally IMO. If you really want to have fun with it, make a wiz and give it to them at 50 with their epic. It would open up a a good amount of leveling options vs just quadding.

Pallies really don't need much mana 45+. Crown of narandi will take care of most of what you need it for, since all your healing will be done with the DW helm/bp. The mana will go towards root/dispell/occasional lull if your DW arms do not have the proper radius to handle the split. They have pretty much all the tools to handle any dungeon, but it will slow down immensely 51+. But if you're set on a solo pally build make sure to go all in on CHA for those lulls and pick a race with high starting CHA(Human, High elf, or Half elf).
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Old 12-19-2022, 06:55 PM
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Would a high CHA race with points in WIS be the best answer? I don't think you're capping WIS with gear, and it'd just take a few gear swaps to easily be at 130+ CHA.
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Old 12-19-2022, 08:37 PM
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Would a high CHA race with points in WIS be the best answer? I don't think you're capping WIS with gear, and it'd just take a few gear swaps to easily be at 130+ CHA.
I'd still go CHA, it's the hardest stat to raise.

I went full WIS on my Erudite, 2nd highest wisdom race, and regretted it the first time I wiped on a crit lull resist. Sure you can swap in some gear, but I'll still take 200 CHA on a swap vs 180 on a swap.

Wis on the other hand is super niche use, probably good for that last HoT at lvl 60 if you are soloing some named and need to get the extra heal off, but that will probably never happen. And you get 5 soulfire charges for those emergency healing situations.

Pallies just don't get a good enough spellset IMO to be needing/utilizing extreme amounts of mana. Passive regen, like Crown of Narandi, is much more important.
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Old 12-20-2022, 12:02 AM
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I soloed to 60. No fungi or DW BP; it was pretty easy.

A DW BP is 30hp a sec healing. DW Helm is about 12. Fungi is 2.5.
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Old 12-20-2022, 12:00 PM
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I'd still go CHA, it's the hardest stat to raise.

I went full WIS on my Erudite, 2nd highest wisdom race, and regretted it the first time I wiped on a crit lull resist. Sure you can swap in some gear, but I'll still take 200 CHA on a swap vs 180 on a swap.

Wis on the other hand is super niche use, probably good for that last HoT at lvl 60 if you are soloing some named and need to get the extra heal off, but that will probably never happen. And you get 5 soulfire charges for those emergency healing situations.

Pallies just don't get a good enough spellset IMO to be needing/utilizing extreme amounts of mana. Passive regen, like Crown of Narandi, is much more important.
I think I might like a Pal with the manastone... Just for a few clicks every few fights so I can continue pulling.

Hmmmm maybe High Elf Pal + 20CHA +5sta
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Old 12-20-2022, 04:06 PM
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With The Hole pretty quiet these days you could have a lot of fun with that.
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