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Shaman DoTs Not Stacking Correctly
I noticed in PvP I could not stack Plague with Scourge or Ebolt with Venom of the Snake.
In classic you could stack Sicken, Affliction, Infectious Cloud, Scourge and Plague all at once, as well as Tainted Breath, Envenomed Breath, Venom of the Snake, and Envenomed Bolt. All the disease stacked with disease. All the poison stacked with poison. And all poison stacked with all disease. This was the beauty of being shaman. Please fix this. The lines that didn't work this way were the necro-only DoTs and I think the druids DoTs. I am not sure about necros and druids, but having played a shaman I am positive they all stacked. PROOF http://web.archive.org/web/200203050...ll.asp?Id=1175 Quote:
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You're wrong. Here is an original developer patch post stating so. These retards you quoted did not understand that their stronger dot was over writing the weaker one.
Uthgaard 03-07-2011, 08:32 AM Working as intended. What you had before, where every dot stacked with any other dot, was the bug. http://www.project1999.org/forums/ar...p/t-28855.html And here are the patch notes from Sept 4th, 2002 - When they allowed multiple classes the ability to cast the same dot and exceed the 15 stack limit. However as mentioned in the patch notes - that still not to mean inferior versions of the same dot stacking. We've made two changes to the way spells stack. Damage Over Time (DoT) spells are spells that linger on the target doing damage. Until today two different characters could not have the same DoT spell on the same target. As long as one copy of the spell was active any new version of the spell would not take hold. After today the same DoT spell cast by different casters can affect the same target at the same time. Also, if you cast a DoT spell on a target and you already have that spell active on it, the spell will refresh. (Note: It will not be possible to stack Lifeburn). This does not allow for inferior spells to stack along with superior spells. (Example: Two Necromancers can both land Boil Blood on the same target. However, Heat Blood, being an inferior spell, will still not stack.) Full patch notes below http://everquest.allakhazam.com/hist...es-2002-2.html | ||
Last edited by DarthPeon; 11-17-2011 at 03:56 AM..
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Darthpeon shamans we're always an exception to the rule of dot stacking.
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This does not allow for inferior spells to stack along with superior spells. Here is a druid documented example of how dots stacked back then. Two different lines stacking - Like plague and ebolt for a shaman... http://web.archive.org/web/200008221...ds.com/dot.htm | |||
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As I said their DoTs weren't "lines." Lines of DoTs were only accessible by THAT class and their hybrid if one existed. Only Druids and Rangers had their lines; Necros and SKs had their lines; For Shamans... Beastlords AND Necros all had some of their DoTs. Necros got Venom of the Snake(39shm) and later Envenomed Bolt(49shm), and Scourge(34shm) and Plague(49shm) later... Weird.. they didn't get Tainted Breath(9shm) or Envenomed Breath(24shm), or Affliction(19shm) or Sicken(5shm), nor did they get Bane of Nife(56shm) or Pox(58shm) in Kunark. Makes no sense, unless they aren't preset "lines." Also Necros got their own unique poison/disease DoTs. Poison: Chilling Embrace (34) and Poiso Bolt (4) Disease: Disease Cloud (1). Was Disease Cloud in a line of DoTs? No. Was Chilling Embrace in a line of DoTs? No. Was Poison Bolt in a line of DoTs? No. Notice, poison and disease DoTs are seen as individual DoTs, not lines. Doesn't make sense if they are sharing a "line" of DoTs for their spells to be this way, unique low level DoTs, share some mid-hi level DoTs, then nothing after that. Your quote on inferior and superior dots are used as terms to refer specifically to predefined lines of DoTs. The only examples given by the Devs were druid/necros. Sure Dev quotes have more weight, but taking a Dev quote out of context means nothing. Quote:
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Last edited by Castle; 11-15-2011 at 12:30 PM..
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2001 = not classic
shamans are already powerhouses id be one if i could b a dwarf shaman
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Jan 2001 = 1 month after Velious was released.
Check patch messages from day 1 through Velious. There is nothing mentioned about spell stacking changing for Shaman DoTs. So we must assume Shaman DoT stacking remained the same. To believe otherwise we would need a reason. No patch message and no other archived posts = no dice. In other words, FRAPs or it didn't happen. | ||
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Shamans should still be able to stack a disease and a poison dot. That is straight out of the Kunark strategy guide.
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Uthgaard, a search revealed a few quotes of Devs promising to nerf DoTs and discussing them, but no hard evidence of it being classic. No quotes, no links, nada. You got a link? All I found is a general consensus druid DoTs shouldn't stack in the same line... and apparently shamans got swept into that as well, even though there is clear proof this was not the case in classic. | ||||
Last edited by Castle; 11-15-2011 at 01:36 PM..
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