Chira numbuh wan!

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i feel like our imagination fills in the blanks about AI a heck of alot faster then reality can teach us

I know a couple people who are working in the field and their attitude about it is like an old school calculator

that little device that is programmed to provide a result to a query like what is 2+2

the LLM is programmed to provide a result to a query like, "make a picture of a busty woman on a picturesque beach"

then it picks details from the millions of images it was trained on and constructs the AI image of a woman on a beach

they also tell me that this is an effort of thousands of people working 24 hours a day to refine the LLM so it doesn't use a motorcycle in place of a bicycle and stuff like that

Hey look at even the kid that works with Big Ballz in doge.. He used AI to analyze burnt scrolls and the AI figured out text, not a human.

I could totally foresee a situation where nuralink is able to cure disease without even people knowing wtf it's doing.

Here's an interesting real life example where Ai can tell the sex of someone based off retinas, and scientists still don't know how it does.

Imagine if it figures out a cure to cancer, and humans are like, "we don't know how it does it but it does it! ... instal neuralink in your brain, it just does it's thing and cures your cancer!" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

https://x.com/EricTopol/status/1064217558218231809

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[Ekco]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

especially given that AI is nothing more than a marketing term for advanced software and that actual artificial intelligence is as theoretical as faster then light travel

yeah when you really break it down, it's just a handful of applications we already had just slightly improved and packaged together

the chatbot part of it is from the mid 60s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA "A 2023 preprint reported that ELIZA beat OpenAI's GPT-3.5, the model used by ChatGPT at the time, in a Turing test study. However, it did not outperform GPT-4 or real humans."

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it's a slighty better Search Engine sorta...when it feels like it, which is more about how shitty google has gotten over the years, where every time your trying to find a answer to something you'd write "reddit" at the end to just find the posts of actual humans discussing the problem instead of a page and a half of ads / clickbait articles.

i had it summarize all the amazon reviews and other reviews to pick a product for me the other day so that was kinda useful cause i didn't want to actual read about which Chinese car battery charger caught fire the least out of this 10 i had it look up, the email summarizing is useful

the only real actual improvement is the ML, machine learning part, that started with the chess programs and ended with whatever crazy game AlphaGo is training on currently, and AlphaGo started in 2015 and beat a 10dan w/e Go player in 2018 or something like that and that's the tech they used to make the image generating stuff and everyone filling out image capachas helped build the training data for it, which is the same shit used for Self driving cars


and all the creative writing generator shit is old as balls also.

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Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I find it most useful to think of it in terms of Nietzsche and master-slave morality; there are those who subscribe to master morality (MAGA), and those who subscribe to slave morality (Democrats).

I think that's the clearest distinction. There are two dominant, competing conceptions of what is good and bad. In master morality, which aligns with the ancient greeks, goodness and virtue is strength, health, the will to power, and your ability to exert your will on your environment, thereby allowing you to protect and provide for yourself and your loved ones. There is no absolute morality, you make your own morality. This is why Trump can grab pussies, burn down capitols, leave national secrets scattered around the floor of his resort, tell Brian Kemp to "find more votes", etc... he is good because he is powerful and constantly provides victories for his 'clan'.

What Nietzsche called slave morality, on the other hand, aligns more closely with ancient Christians (though not modern ones) and I think is the predominant good/bad conceptualization among Democrats. Here, good and bad are abstract concepts-- to be 'good' often means living a life of virtue, humility, helping other people/charity, the golden rule, dealing in a fair and honest manner. You can be the biggest fuckin loser in town and still be 'good'. You can be a slave, and still be good. Your king can be powerful but if he is also 'evil' according to your abstract morality, then he is not a good king (see the purity-testing inherent in wokeness).

Master moralists will laugh in the face of a slave moralist when they say something like "that's not fair!". Slave moralists will laugh in the face of a master moralist when they say something like "fucking cancel culture witch-hunt" after they get caught and ostracized for fucking somebody over or otherwise doing something antisocial.

Society has always had both parties and always will. It needs both. The south park guys summed it up best with their soliloquy on dicks, pussies, and assholes. A society run by a bunch of dicks can't function very well, nor can a society run by a bunch of pussies. A society run by assholes isn't a society.

Do you think you reckon Freddy Nietz will still be remembered in 2000 years?

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[shovelquest]

All cancel culture proved was artists are sexual deviants and if they are not, they suck at being artists.

[Ekco]

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the kids are already dating in those VR chatrooms with fucked up Furry / anime avatars, it's 10x more weird than that Second life game from a long time ago, Twitch has an insane amount of them streaming also, it's an entire industry right now of people making custom models for people, shit's literally straight out of the book Snow Crash

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[Ekco]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All cancel culture proved was artists are sexual deviants and if they are not, they suck at being artists.

"all art is made from spite or horniness, and a computer cannot be spiteful or horny, so a computer should never make art"

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by Ekco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the kids are already dating in those VR chatrooms with fucked up Furry / anime avatars, it's 10x more weird than that Second life game from a long time ago, Twitch has an insane amount of them streaming also, it's an entire industry right now of people making custom models for people, shit's literally straight out of the book Snow Crash

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Oh I have a TV show recommendation for you.

[Ekco]

NOPE

edit: oh it's a comedy, i saw that thumbnail and was like...

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Imagine if it figures out a cure to cancer, and humans are like, "we don't know how it does it but it does it! ... instal neuralink in your brain, it just does it's thing and cures your cancer!" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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I'd rather die of cancer alone on my birthday, then whatever these things are