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Old 03-13-2023, 11:23 PM
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im pretty sure that I understand what you mean. for some reason my default language structure pretty much always sounds negative, that is not intentional. I think its the cold and mechanical nature of my speech patterns.

-but-

I spend my entire life outside of work in pursuit of pleasure. good times with family, friends, drugs and as much sex as i can physically manage. If this reality is not base reality, then we really do not have anything outside of Love.

-but-

If this reality is not base reality, then once we leave this simulation, nothing we did here will have any meaning, let alone be remembered.

im sorry for how this sounds, but the math does heavily suggest that we are all just waiting to die.

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I wish it wasn't true, i really do. I've been searching for meaning in life for 38 years, and i've been consistently disappointed.
Fair enough, it could also just be the text format. Just pretend we're six beers deep.

I am pretty new to this form of philosophy myself, but my instincts tell me that I should say "stop searching for meaning and make it"

On a related subject, if nothing means anything, then why do you care that people are gay or trans, and have such vitriol against them? Or the other things that you post about that cause you whatever concern?
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Old 03-13-2023, 11:25 PM
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Embrace the absurdity of it. The only meaning to anything is the meaning we perceive and feel.

Consider universalism. Or monism. The egg theory. Whatever. Whatever gets us to act better is probably worth it. But I do not think negativity gets people to act better.
Can we also consider Ultramontanism?
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Old 03-13-2023, 11:26 PM
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I dislike wives being referred to as 'partners'
Same

It’s wife or if you want a gender neutral then spouse

Partner implies some sort of business contract or something
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Old 03-13-2023, 11:28 PM
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i trip balls on synchronicities a lot but i usually reassure myself by blaming it on psychosis from too many drugs. only upside is i'm never bored because at some level i basically operate thinking i'm in a fucked up Truman Show kinda situation.

like last month i literally went to waffle house like 20 times to see what kinda interesting people would spawn that i could talk to then tried to connect all those weird encounters together and find some meaning in it

but yeah "Drugs."
drugs only activate synaptic pathways that aren't normally activated, you are literally changing your thought process, so don't be so quick to discount the effects of drugs when observing reality, sometimes you are gonna see truth that you can't see while sober. You've been sober since birth, your brain grew and formed more or less along the same pathways that are active when sober. our "individual realities" cannot be more than the information received by your senses and processed by the brain. drugs will change this with varying results.

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That is entirely up to your definition of meaning

Everything you do in this life has a ripple effect outward the extent of which you cannot comprehend, for a length of time that you cannot comprehend, especially when it comes to the people you interact with

IMO
You're right, if this is base reality.

If its a simulation, then EverQuest is a good example. no matter how many thousands of hours you put into the game, when you log out of Norrath, none of it matters. at all.

nothing but the series of dopamine hits that we interpret as enjoyment. in which case we're just rats that learned the difference between the lever that electro shocks the cage, and the lever that drops a food pellet.

but if its a simulation, there is no dopamine or lever or pellet. It's only software.

then richard feynman's quote makes more sense.

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Old 03-13-2023, 11:43 PM
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Let me run it by my partner, she was raised Catholic, not me.
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Old 03-13-2023, 11:51 PM
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If its a simulation, then EverQuest is a good example. no matter how many thousands of hours you put into the game, when you log out of Norrath, none of it matters. at all.
I personally donít think life is a simulation but if it was, thereís a few things to consider

1. You have a conscious ego. Itís not like some other person is controlling your character, so you are sentient

2. This implies that even if this is a simulation, your consciousness in the simulation would be a product of something outside that simulation. The obvious example is the person outside the matrix plugged into the matrix

3. And just like the matrix movie, there is a decent chance that decisions made in the simulation affect the source outside the simulation in some way, so in that regard they do matter

If itís all a simulation, and once it ends you are assigned a score based on your decisions, and that score somehow mattered for all eternity and couldnít be changed, then the simulation would be like an allegory to the life before afterlife
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Old 03-14-2023, 12:00 AM
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simulation theory is basically proven by the double slit experiment

then it was confirmed again by the delayed choice experiment

this stuff is barely known, it's difficult to understand without having advanced training in quantum mechanics, fortunately, I do!

but then again, Dr. Feynman so eloquently put it:



don't take my word for it, ask any physicist, literally any physicist.

watch the video, it does a pretty good job of putting things in simpler terms, and I felt like the universe wanted me to share it, as you posted this during the time i was watching the video.



I'm a believer that we are all NPCs in each other's video game.
While the double slit experiment and the delayed choice experiment may seem strange, they do not provide evidence that we live in a simulation. There are a lot of different interpretations of quantum mechanics and while none of them can be definitively proven, they do not require the existence of a simulated reality.

Plus, these experiments have been replicated many times, and their results are consistent with one of the many theories of quantum mechanics. These experiments challenge our understanding, they do not require us to posit the existence of a simulated reality.

We haven't discovered any evidence of the existence of the creators of our supposed simulation also suggests that we are not living in a simulated reality. If we were in a simulation, we might expect to find some evidence of the creators, but so far we have not found any such evidence.

Yes, Elizondo. Your God is fake and I in fact am your God.
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Old 03-14-2023, 12:01 AM
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"Despite all my rage I am still just a rat in a cage"
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Old 03-14-2023, 12:01 AM
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yeah startrek got the entire universe correct from a guess back in the 1960s
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Old 03-14-2023, 12:08 AM
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You're both kinda right, we're at a point in quantum mechanics where the questions we're asking can't be tested with our current tech, and most likely won't be able to be tested for the foreseeable future. like tryin to figure out what a spell does, without logging into EQ. that's one of the reasons i didn't pursue a career in physics, there's really not alot that we can do right now, and most of those people don't make much $$, aaand the professional sciences are super clicky based on who-you-know like hollywood.

I always feel like if i go real in depth with stuff I just end up coming off as a preachy know-it-all and that turns people off, makes me look like a douche etc.

i just can't deny the feeling ive had my entire life that the reality i see through my eyes is but a small fraction of the total picture.

Like, i know this just the same as i know my hair is black.
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