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Old 06-28-2023, 12:31 PM
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Not gonna happen. I’d boot a shaman trying to do this.
Your personal preference is irrelevant to what a group can objectively do. Limiting yourself on strategies is the fault of the player, not the class or composition.
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Old 06-28-2023, 12:32 PM
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Ports aren't a big deal on these servers. Have you ever been in a position where you couldn't find a porter? I haven't. We aren't talking about a fresh server where there are no dial-a-port characters yet.
Yeah this is what I mean, no creativity. You only see ports as services to get from one druid ring/wizard spire to the other. You're basically playing EQ on the most basic of basic levels, which is why you think a very boring class with a very limited utility toolbox is a good addition to a group which is already filled to the gills with survivability and dps. Basically you'll never be in a truly great group and you'll spend your entire P99 career root rotting/face tanking mobs that slowly get dotted down.
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Old 06-28-2023, 12:34 PM
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Yeah this is what I mean, no creativity. You only see ports as services to get from one druid ring/wizard spire to the other. You're basically playing EQ on the most basic of basic levels, which is why you think a very boring class with a very limited utility toolbox is a good addition to a group which is already filled to the gills with survivability and dps.
Due to how this game works with camp rules, you cannot hold multiple camps across multiple zones generally speaking. You aren't going to be porting a lot during a play session in most cases. You simply don't need a dedicated porter. Whenever your group is not porting, the Druid is simply going to be doing less than a Shaman.
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Old 06-28-2023, 12:38 PM
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Not gonna happen. I’d boot a shaman trying to do this.
I mean, anyone with a brain would.

If you're in Sebilis, for example: what mobs are you going to root rot that are worth root rotting anyway in a 2 charm group? As soon a one root breaks, the Shaman is wasting time, and if another breaks he won't be getting bailed from the Enchanters who can't mesmerise dotted targets.
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Old 06-28-2023, 12:40 PM
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I would also like to see this 4 man summoned-pet tanked 6 neck attempt.
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Old 06-28-2023, 12:40 PM
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Due to how this game works with camp rules, you cannot hold multiple camps across multiple zones generally speaking. You aren't going to be porting a lot during a play session in most cases. You simply don't need a dedicated porter. Whenever your group is not porting, the Druid is simply going to be doing less than a Shaman.
Wouldn't it be nice for the Druid to succor and/or port this group after they're done in a deep dungeon? You can't rely on DAP for that.
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Old 06-28-2023, 12:41 PM
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I mean, anyone with a brain would.

If you're in Sebilis, for example: what mobs are you going to root rot that are worth root rotting anyway in a 2 charm group? As soon a one root breaks, the Shaman is wasting time, and if another breaks he won't be getting bailed from the Enchanters who can't mesmerise dotted targets.
Most mobs in Seb aren't breaking root like crazy. You would know this if you have fought there.

If you are XPing, you are killing trash. If you are camping Fungi King, that is your primary objective. Pulling mobs for XP is just a bonus, not something you are doing at a breakneck pace.
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Old 06-28-2023, 12:44 PM
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So what are the mobs worth root rotting parallel to the charms in there, scumbag?
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Old 06-28-2023, 12:44 PM
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Ports aren't a big deal on these servers. Have you ever been in a position where you couldn't find a porter? I haven't.
The above Quote could simply suggest that you do not port as often as other posters here while grouping, which could be true for a variety of reasons such as: maybe you play less often than posters who find more value in in-group porters, maybe you group up less often, maybe you tackle comparatively fewer camps in a given play-period (or in general) than other posters here. Maybe a combination of all of these things.

Regardless of your own personal anecdotal history of port frequency and availability, being in a position where you have to find and then wait for a porter is - inarguably - less efficient than having a porter in your group, if your goal is to be ported. When considering which 4 person all caster/priest group is the "best" this is a factor that merits consideration. Especially considering my following point:

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We aren't talking about a fresh server where there are no dial-a-port characters yet.
The majority of posters in this thread are aligned in that the capabilities of the FOUR PERSON group should be considered based on the capabilities of the classes composing said hypothetical FOUR PERSON group - WITHOUT additional out-of-group players (DAP) or additional "pocket" toons involved - as the ONLY specification that the OP DID provide is "best 4 person all caster/priest group", and speaking strictly mathematically, 4 =/= 5 (or any other # higher than 4).
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Old 06-28-2023, 12:46 PM
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So what are the mobs worth root rotting parallel to the charms in there, scumbag?
The trash mobs when you are XPing are worth root rotting. When you are not XPing (like camping Fungi King), you aren't trying to maximize DPS for more kills per hour. You are camping Fungi King, and bringing in some mobs between spawns to kill the time.
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