Wizard

[sajbert]

Sta is useless. For one, Wizards don't really do any solo heroics at 60 and group even less. The times that extra measly HP will save you in a raid is almost never and the amount f times that will make the difference in an encounter is even less than almost never. Even if you quad you're typically dead either way if you let them clip you, unless you're quadding low level mobs at 60 in which case you'll probably be fine either way.

Charisma is only for vendoring and there are items for that if you care enough. But sure, could maybe save you some bagspace and possibly be the best choice. The fact that Wizards don't really farm plat in any tradional sense kinda makes me think it's not worth it however.

Str is nice initially but then you get WR bags and it starts being pointless. Again, you don't really do any traditional farming on a Wiz.

Dex is useful for procs and maybe unironically the best stat in order to get to HH as fast as possible using the hammer proc. But yeah, it's still pretty crummy.

Agi does practically nothing, similar deal as with stamina.

Wis does nothing.

Int helps a LOT for leveling, especially if you aren't twinked. Few wizards ever get capped int whilst having good resists and +hp items but yes, eventually you can. However there's just not much point to gearing a wiz with raid loot. Doesn't change what you do with the character. Possibly having int could help you on a corpse run too, or if you're bound in zone or just outside run back in and throw in more nukes. I'm reaching here though, I'd say that it's pretty useless still if you ever get sufficiently raid geared. So I'd say if you care about having the highest total number of combined stats to look at in your character profile, don't pick Int.

Either way, it doesn't really matter what you pick in this instance as far as minmax endgame goes and until that point INT is certainly best.

[Goregasmic]

At 60 you get 2,4hp per sta point as a purecaster. 20 sta gives you 48hp.

It would take you like 2-4 gear slots to get 20 int depending on which slots and the gear you'd have access to while you could get that much hp in a single slot. Just get one of those 65hp/mana necks, hp rings or whatever if you really want the hp. Much easier to max int and do trade offs with gear if you want to raise something else.

[shovelquest]

Yeah, TBB on a wiz instead of +4 or 5 int is pretty good exchange.

[WarpathEQ]

Going to roll a wizard and tend to go gnome because what racial ability could trump seeing through walls? I came to the realization that wizard may be one class that gnome could be a downfall considering in the end game wizards are mainly used for FTE and Kiting.

Does being a shorty create headaches and liability for an end game min/max raid wizard and I should go with a taller starting race or does it not really matter and I should stick with the master race and roll gnome?

[Balimon]

Originally Posted by WarpathEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Going to roll a wizard and tend to go gnome because what racial ability could trump seeing through walls? I came to the realization that wizard may be one class that gnome could be a downfall considering in the end game wizards are mainly used for FTE and Kiting.

Does being a shorty create headaches and liability for an end game min/max raid wizard and I should go with a taller starting race or does it not really matter and I should stick with the master race and roll gnome?

Ya don't go gnome, it'll cause headaches for kiting.

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by Balimon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ya don't go gnome, it'll cause headaches for kiting.

Where?

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by WarpathEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Going to roll a wizard and tend to go gnome because what racial ability could trump seeing through walls? I came to the realization that wizard may be one class that gnome could be a downfall considering in the end game wizards are mainly used for FTE and Kiting.

Does being a shorty create headaches and liability for an end game min/max raid wizard and I should go with a taller starting race or does it not really matter and I should stick with the master race and roll gnome?

You're missing the big picture here, you should roll gnome because increased run speed feels so much nicer and we got all the best puns.

Seriously though, my wiz was erudite and I didn't raid kite back then so can't speak for that but you're not exactly a dungeon crawling class, unless the content is trivial so you won't need the gnome perk all that much. And even then it is basically low effort snooping, as I don't think you can target through walls and wiz will need LOS for all their spells so very limited use. Worst case scenario you'll be able to use camera work and bind sight aaaand you have eye of zomm which is pretty damn neat. Also, if you plan on being a high end raid wiz, seeing through walls is probably useless.

My ench lives the dungeoneering life though and it is gnome all day every day but even then I find it more of a nice perk than a necessity. When grouping I often wish I was taller for better area oversight so I usually illusion into something taller. There's no perfect race all the time and none of those considerations are make or break.

[Jimjam]

Use eye of zomm and bind sight.

[Snaggles]

Gnomes are only an issue running up stairs. I don’t know a kiting situation where they are limited on the raid scene.

Being preshrunk is never a bad thing. I ended up going high elf for fun but gnome seems just as valid (if not more).

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gnomes are only an issue running up stairs.

Only stairs I've had a problem with are the ones in Kael. I always levi when I need to go through. Never had an issue getting around anywhere else.

Fun fact: you can go through the grates and prison bars in najena with no keys. Not sure if there are other places like that.