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Old 03-13-2023, 12:14 AM
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You're implying that American society needs yet another punitive approach, or yet another reason to incarcerate more people... for a mostly economic issue.

The poor people you're speaking of experience nothing but the stick from the actual policies you support. Try the carrot.

With the CEOs, you should try the stick. Stop using the carrot.

You come off as a lot more arrogant than you think you do.
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Old 03-13-2023, 12:15 AM
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Anyone watch the new Chris rock thing on Netflix? He called Jan 6 “white planet of the apes”

I lol’d
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Old 03-13-2023, 12:25 AM
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Speaking of stocks, I couldn’t pick a winner to save my life. I’m about to buy MMM and IBM so expect them to tank sometime in the next couple of weeks
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Old 03-13-2023, 12:29 AM
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When I worked in those shitty hotels, I got punched in the face a few times per year. Mostly related to some dude beating up some woman, but yeah, it happens more than you think.

Anyways, a lot of the retail theft you're apparently mad about is probably committed by employees. They're often in the best position to steal from these companies, and yes, I approve of that too.
My son would get punched once a week working as an ER nurse. He moved to pediatric ICU stuff as soon as he could and ultimately went CRNA because the job jaded him BIGLY

But yeah, regular occurrence for people to do PCP, come in hallucinating and go buckwild on female nurses and then guys like my son have to come in. It’s weird though because we’re Iranian and our default move is the chokehold 100%. If you touch me I’m slugging you and then taking you to the ground and occluding your airway

That’s frowned upon these days so I’m trying to learn alternatives like growing a really intimidating al-qaeda beard and taking lessons in Muay Thai
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Old 03-13-2023, 12:44 AM
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My son would get punched once a week working as an ER nurse. He moved to pediatric ICU stuff as soon as he could and ultimately went CRNA because the job jaded him BIGLY

But yeah, regular occurrence for people to do PCP, come in hallucinating and go buckwild on female nurses and then guys like my son have to come in. It’s weird though because we’re Iranian and our default move is the chokehold 100%. If you touch me I’m slugging you and then taking you to the ground and occluding your airway

That’s frowned upon these days so I’m trying to learn alternatives like growing a really intimidating al-qaeda beard and taking lessons in Muay Thai
Yea, nothing is going to burn staff out in ANY job and make them want to quit like getting assaulted. Not bad pay or a mean manager. Getting assaulted will make them quit that day

And I really don’t see shoplifting in front of them as all that below that. It’ll probably freak out the female employees into quitting, as they recognize they are more vulnerable if this shoplifter is psychotic or otherwise interested in doing more crimes than just stealing

I know people want to stick it to the rich, but this is not a great way. Cannot support end justify the means on that one

And that’s why I might seem arrogant. I’m not an expert on how to manage a city, but being against shoplifting seems like a pretty safe position /shrug
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Old 03-13-2023, 12:46 AM
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No I try to be that arrogant [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It’s ridiculous that you try to defend shoplifting, which I’ve already detailed negatively impacts poor people. Your carrot on the stick thing is implying preventative measures

I already addressed this in a way YOU should be able to relate to. When things get bad and crime is getting out of control enough to make people move away and stores all close down, you need FAST solutions

You’re probably glad the doctors chose to use your insurance money on chemo for your wife and not cancer prevention research
It's ridiculous to me to see someone complaining about shoplifting while unwilling to do a single thing about the things that actually cause shoplifting. Yet another solution by a capitalist that involves putting handcuffs on poor, mostly non-white people. I'm sure it will work this time despite the fact that it's the only thing we ever try.

The doctors don't dictate where the money goes, at least at the hospital level. That's more a function of insurance companies, to my understanding. My wife did not consent to her DNA or biopsy samples being used for research purposes. We had a long discussion about it at the time.

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My son would get punched once a week working as an ER nurse. He moved to pediatric ICU stuff as soon as he could and ultimately went CRNA because the job jaded him BIGLY

But yeah, regular occurrence for people to do PCP, come in hallucinating and go buckwild on female nurses and then guys like my son have to come in. It’s weird though because we’re Iranian and our default move is the chokehold 100%. If you touch me I’m slugging you and then taking you to the ground and occluding your airway

That’s frowned upon these days so I’m trying to learn alternatives like growing a really intimidating al-qaeda beard and taking lessons in Muay Thai
This mostly happened between 2000 and 2010 or so, so I was much more likely to either just take the punch (if he was sloppy drunk and/or old) or full on fight a guy (this only happened twice). So many fuckin drunk dudes climbing over the desk. I had to go to court for that shitty hotel half a dozen times.

I was never intimidating, I look like a young Kevin Bacon. However, I'm also not the smallest dude in the world and those fights were never fair. Fighting fairly is for sports. We had a baseball bat behind the desk for this specific reason.
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Old 03-13-2023, 12:54 AM
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This is also whyyy and I’ve said this many times before too, major behavior problems form kids will have a FAR FAR more negative impact on everyone else’s around education than funding ever could

And it’s because of staff burnout. We JUST last month had a brand new therapist on a call at a behavioral school for delinquent kids who have past charges. Happened to have an attractive female co-worker that day. Was talking to this 15yr old ish who was frequently making very inappropriate sexual comments to the co-worker. So the therapist guy said “please be respectful with us as we are with you”

Kid got furious and socked him in the nose. Dude quit that day. Master’s level therapist, probably started at above $60k on his first job out of college. Still noped right out of there
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Old 03-13-2023, 01:00 AM
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Yeah, see, if they just had a shitty minimum wage job for a while where they learned the ropes of dealing with people who don't like you that punch wouldn't have been so surprising ... sometimes I think there should be a public high school course where you hold a few different min wage jobs for a few weeks at a time each.

Back when I was dating, a personal litmus test was how a given woman treated the servers. I cannot spend time with people who are mean to waitstaff.

Would love to see basic labor function tests of our political candidates. "Mr. Biden, split this log with this axe." or "Mr. Trump, here is a raw potato. Cook it."
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Old 03-13-2023, 01:01 AM
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It's ridiculous to me to see someone complaining about shoplifting while unwilling to do a single thing about the things that actually cause shoplifting. Yet another solution by a capitalist that involves putting handcuffs on poor, mostly non-white people. I'm sure it will work this time despite the fact that it's the only thing we ever try.

The doctors don't dictate where the money goes, at least at the hospital level. That's more a function of insurance companies, to my understanding. My wife did not consent to her DNA or biopsy samples being used for research purposes. We had a long discussion about it at the time.

This mostly happened between 2000 and 2010 or so, so I was much more likely to either just take the punch (if he was sloppy drunk and/or old) or full on fight a guy (this only happened twice). So many fuckin drunk dudes climbing over the desk. I had to go to court for that shitty hotel half a dozen times.

I was never intimidating, I look like a young Kevin Bacon. However, I'm also not the smallest dude in the world and those fights were never fair. Fighting fairly is for sports. We had a baseball bat behind the desk for this specific reason.
Like I already said twice before, you can’t talk preventing house fires when the house is already on fire

But agree to disagree. And by all means, tell as many people as you can that you are a registered democrat and are pro shoplifting. People will understand and agree I promise, once you explain it
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