Who lays claim?

[TheDudeAbides]

Originally Posted by Cyrano [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And on the rule issue, I think the vast majority of IB wants it to be FFA.

The entire reason Wonton made this post was the shed light on the fact that the current raid climate has changed from when those rules were created.

When those rules were created they were put in place to prevent leapfrogging and protect guilds that were legitimately in a zone clearing when a mob popped. DA is already camping multiple raid zones with 15+ so they might game the system, but now their raids are apparently open to all meaning we have to go through a system of checks with every person in the zone, summon a GM to make sure we won't get banned for attacking a mob instead of playing the game it was originally meant to be played; as an open competition.

What do you mean by FFA? You mean training/leapfrogging?

[Cyrano]

If that's part of it I'm ok with it, in that type of situation the true colors of individuals and guilds alike will begin to shine through.

[TheDudeAbides]

Originally Posted by Cyrano [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If that's part of it I'm ok with it, in that type of situation the true colors of individuals and guilds alike will begin to shine through.

http://project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=7491

[Loke]

Originally Posted by Cyrano [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think Loke is a cool guy and have enjoyed the few interactions I've shared with him.

Quoted for truth. Ditto guy.

This thread needs more <3.

Off topic story; once someone quoted me and wrote "qft" which I thought was "quit fucking talking", when really he meant "quoted for truth".. so I laid into the guy and looked like a huge cock. Good times.

[Erasong]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Quoted for truth. Ditto guy.

This thread needs more <3.

Off topic story; once someone quoted me and wrote "qft" which I thought was "quit fucking talking", when really he meant "quoted for truth".. so I laid into the guy and looked like a huge cock. Good times.

QFT....WHICH ONE DID I MEAN LOKE!?!? <3

whats funny is i think half of DA and half of IB are actually very friendly outside of the raids. How do we bring that same spirit into the raids? We figure that out, and the issues die imo.

Elaida 50 Paladin <Inglourious Basterds>
Eliada 35 Shadow Knight.

[spoolie]

Ya i think that to Elaida. I have never had a bad run in with any IB at anytime and I am in DA. It just when it comes to raid time, the competitiveness comes out in some. Everyone wants to slay the dragon, and if they can't then its QQ time... I mean what am I saying fuck IB and everything you stand for!!@!@!! =D j/k

[Dabamf]

The hilarity is that thedudeabides got all butthurt that IB had trackers in every raid zone 24/7, talking about no lives and all that. Now his guild / former guild camped every raid mob last week 24/7--that is, 15+ people rather than 1--and he is cool with that.

So, 1 person 24/7 is sad and pathetic. 15+ people 24/7 isn't. That's Jeffrey logic.

My favorite part in this whole thread though was when he said, in summary, that IB forced DA to camp because they were too fast and organized to be beaten any other way.

[Aadill]

Last time on draco, IB called a roll call on DA 5 seconds after it spawned.

The only way to do that is to have 15 yourself.

Needin dem lootz

[TheDudeAbides]

Originally Posted by Dabamf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The hilarity is that thedudeabides got all butthurt that IB had trackers in every raid zone 24/7, talking about no lives and all that. Now his guild / former guild camped every raid mob last week 24/7--that is, 15+ people rather than 1--and he is cool with that.

So, 1 person 24/7 is sad and pathetic. 15+ people 24/7 isn't. That's Jeffrey logic.

My favorite part in this whole thread though was when he said, in summary, that IB forced DA to camp because they were too fast and organized to be beaten any other way.

You exploited leatherfoot caps

Nothing more

Oh wait. You answered txt msgs 24/7

[Aadill]

The important thing here is that the spirit of the rules are applying to any group of people trying to kill a mob. Groups, raids, soloers... doesn't matter.

As it stands, the question you are bringing up implies the only people killing targets are going to be guilds. The rules should have no mention of guilds or friends or anything... simply "players." The reasons for this are becoming more obvious as situations arise: there could be applicants/trial members who are not guilded yet, or as more content opens up, public pickup raids. The rules should be in place to protect their chance at killing mobs, not guaranteeing drops for any particular guild.

You put this in guild discussion, but the subject matter should be a server discussion; and the posts read like R&F.