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Then there was a lot of people upset over what was called the "Ogre cam" and then they changed it/tweaked the zone 2 weeks later. Bind may have removed for a time until the fear revamp, at least that's what i remember since nobody back in the day in their right mind actually bound there, since there wasn't a safe spot. My other friend also remembers the same thing. You didn't bind there, especially to sit and track mobs. He absolutely remembers that you could not bind in POH at all, and as a matter of fact, you were only allowed to track Inno from the second floor if I'm not mistaken. The problem is there isn't a complete history of the original EQ patches. SOE's database goes as far back as 2004. FOH and LOS about 2000. I did find one link that had several patch overviews, but the entire history when those fear changes took place are missing which is basically the entire summer of 99. I'm gonna dig up an old school kunark disk and see if I can dig up some patch history -P | |||
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Second of all: Anecdotal memories are absurdly unreliable, as has been proven many times over by psychologists. All this "I remember," "he remembers" bullshit is completely worthless, especially when you are faced against people posting 15 different posts from that era talking about being bound in fear. You are floating into Siinge-level retardation. I don't think you want to go there. | |||
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And yea, I'm not surprised IB doesn't agree with me or something. Big surprise. Plenty of other people do agree with me. /shrug. Either way, the larger point was that there was no safe spot to sit in fear and track. Not at the N wall. Not anywhere. So if they are going to add that roamer, they also need to fix temple aggro as well so you can't sit right within the fire ring and track. There shouldn't be any way to sit in that zone without fear of aggro/death with a full pop. Some mobs were able to even see rogue stealth randomly as well back in the day if I recall. They also should fix tracking in Hate, to where you can't bind there or track Innorruuk from zone. You guys didn't agree with me that mobs couldn't be harmonied in Hate, or that Maestro couldn't be killed with 1 cleric and 1 enchanter, even though they had been doing it for months. | |||
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eventually if you keep backpedaling you'll render your original post so encompassingly null and void that it'll be like it never happened!
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When a bunch of people come together with the same memory, like those saying you could bind in fear, it is more reliable. But a lone Siinge-esque retard arguing against 8 people and 15 posts from 2000, using only memory as evidence, is the definition of unreliable. You've gone off the deepend. Didn't you quit like over a month ago? Why do you still care what happens? It's pretty pathetic | |||
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Other people agree with me bro. I'm not alone in this recollection. I'll dig up the patch notes. If I'm wrong about the bind, then I'm wrong about it. That doesn't mean I'm backing away shit. You're hilarious. It still doesn't change the fact nobody actually bound there to gate and go sit and track AFK back in the day. There was no "safe spot" to sit and track shit. Maestro couldn't be duo'd with a cleric and enchanter Couldn't bind in hate. Couldn't track Inny from ZL (AFAIR). There are lot of mechanics that could be changed here to make the end game a lot more appealing than it currently stands now and you know this. The sit and track without any danger in the planes to summon people" raiding scene here doesn't reflect classic. There needs to be a danger to the planes that is severely lacking atm. | |||
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