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Old 06-30-2022, 12:20 PM
Elfminster Elfminster is offline
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Thumbs down Rant: Why create bad game design on purpose?

Example:-

Guise of the Deceiver

  • Some players have it.
  • Some players don't have it.
  • Some players will always have it.
  • Some players will never have it.

Bad game design.

Why create a system like that when you don't need to?

Why intentionally create two classes of players in an environment in which you can create equal rights?

How is a player creating an account before another player worthy of a permanent advantage?

Why would anybody invest any serious time into something in which they are permanently disadvantaged no matter what they do and others are permanently advantaged for doing nothing special?

It's dreadful game design which is done on purpose. Why?

It's like creating a game where some players (normal regular players) are permanently stuck on level 1 and other players (normal regular players) are level 60.

It's absurd. Why create a game like that on purpose when you don't need to? Why create another universe which mimics the elitest one you're meant to be escaping from?

There's absolutely no point in playing if you can't get what the other players can get. There's no point playing if you're a permanent 2nd class player no matter what you do.

If you told me that these players who have these OP and extra fun pre-nef items did something extra special then I might understand but they didn't. They play the game just like everybody else does but got rewarded extra. No extra skill was required. No extra thought was required. No extra kindness to others was required. These players didn't help anybody but themselves. They simply logged in and got free loot which is no longer available to anybody else.

How is that good game design? How is that fair?

It's not exactly very welcoming to new players. Why do you penalise new players just for being new? Why do you reward old players who are no different than new players?

Where is the logic?

Where is the balance?

Where is the equality?

How can anybody defend such a system without laughing?

Have you no shame?

If the devs want to give themselves special rewards which nobody else has then they should just be honest about it and do it and not create a permanent rift between players just to cover it up.

That way when I ask why you you have an item I can't have you can reply, "Because I'm a dev and you're not..." which is much better than me asking you why you have an item I can't have and you saying "cuz i creted mi account 1 day bfore you. lulz ok boomer. me iksar nekro too bcuz iksar nekro beter dan all nekro lol now me da best too"

It's no wonder Verant was despised.

Bad games design immortalised on P99.
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Old 06-30-2022, 12:38 PM
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scarcity creates value, sorry life is not fair
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Old 06-30-2022, 01:02 PM
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scarcity creates value, sorry life is not fair
So let me get this straight...
  1. A rare disease which lowers your IQ has value because it's rare.
  2. Oxygen is totally worthless because it's common.
  3. Free sunlight for everybody is dumb because life is not meant to be fair.
  4. P99 being free-to-play is dumb because life is not meant to be fair.
  5. Free open source software is dumb because life is not meant to be fair.
  6. Sow-ing somebody is dumb because life is not meant to be fair.
  7. Cheating is okay so no need to ban cheats because life is not meant to be fair.
  8. No need for rules because life is not meant to be fair.
  9. No need to have a UI or move around because life isn't meant to make sense ie. be fair.
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Old 06-30-2022, 01:03 PM
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Old 06-30-2022, 01:25 PM
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[Verant HQ circa 2000]

Dev 1: I've got a great idea for our MMO.
Dev 2: I'm listening...
Dev 1: Let's make it so that all new players that join the server have a permanent disadvantage.
Dev 2: Won't that stop new players from joining our MMO and make us look stupid and mean?
Dev 1: Yes but it means that some players will have a permanent advantage so to them we will look like heroes AND we will have a permanent advantage too.
Dev 2: But what happens when players get bored and there's no new players coming in? Won't the server die making us unemployed?
Dev 1: We're here for a good time not a long time!
Dev 2: Can't we be here for a good time and a long time?
Dev 1: No because life is not meant to make sense.
Dev 2: Oh yeah I keep forgetting that rule you made up.
Dev 1: I'm going to a public charity event now so talk to you later.
Dev 2: What charity event?
Dev 1: Save the Planet
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Old 06-30-2022, 02:08 PM
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Sorry this game is a real life sim, and you are discovering that real life sucks!
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Old 06-30-2022, 02:16 PM
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We get it you want a guise … too fucking bad you are like 6 years too late
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Old 06-30-2022, 02:20 PM
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Sorry this game is a real life sim, and you are discovering that real life sucks!
If it's a real life sim then why does it have levels that everybody can achieve?

Why does it have a currency which everybody can earn?

Why is there no such thing as democracy?

Why is there no such thing as atheism?

Why are there resurrections and loot corpsing instead of permanent death?

Why can you create multiple identities for yourself?

Why are there no children?

Why are all the girls hot?

Why are there no television?

Why are there no celebrities talking about mental health?

Why can you auction for free?

Why aren't some plants and mushrooms banned?

Why is it free?

Why does it have an official dev which everybody agrees created it?
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Old 06-30-2022, 02:38 PM
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We get it you want a guise … too fucking bad you are like 6 years too late
It's like a child being born and receiving 0% sunlight and a child born the previous year receiving 100% sunlight. Even though the design can be easily changed with a few sensible mouse clicks so all children get 100% sunlight whenever they're born you think that some babies with certain birth dates deserve to be blind forever even though they don't need to be. Babies that could grow up to be your friend and help you. Babies that will keep the server alive which you love to play on.

It shows a lack of insight and hindsight on your behalf + it's discrimination against new players.
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Old 06-30-2022, 04:18 PM
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If it's a real life sim then why does it have levels that everybody can achieve?
your credit score called
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