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Old 08-01-2024, 12:56 PM
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Charm is simply beyond busted in this game. When you charm, you can consider the MOB and the player as one unit, and then it looks like a buff that says, "Gain 15,000 HP. Gain the ability to quad for 250."
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Old 08-01-2024, 02:54 PM
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Charm is simply beyond busted on P99, by design.
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Old 08-01-2024, 03:51 PM
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I would throw my 2 cents in as druid being best all around class.. Jack of all trades, master of none. The quality of life spells. Crowd control spells. Nukes, Dots. Heals. Charms. Buffs. Quadding. I think that is also 1 reason people suggest druid as first character so often. Not cause of just port money. But you can camp enough targets easily in different ways to earn significant funds. And you can accomplish these things without fancy gear. i mean i think they cover most bases except melee.. I mean, yeah, shaman is great, enchanter also is great. Is enchanter an all around class though? It can do a lot of things great, but it also cannot do a lot of other things.. But i'd say best all around class comes down to a druid vs a shaman in my eyes.. I realize most higher level groups, grouping for casual xp don't want a druid. cause another class can usually fill the specific need they are looking for better.. But they could still fill the gaps of many classes in a group if needed..
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Old 08-01-2024, 04:03 PM
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It depends on what best means.

Enchanter is obviously the best in terms of sheer solo strength, with Shaman as runner-up.

Bard is the best in terms of versatility and highest skill cap.

Druid is the best combination of power and quality of life tools/ease of play, with Necro as runner up.
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Old 08-02-2024, 08:19 AM
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I would throw my 2 cents in as druid being best all around class.. Jack of all trades, master of none. The quality of life spells. Crowd control spells. Nukes, Dots. Heals. Charms. Buffs. Quadding. I think that is also 1 reason people suggest druid as first character so often. Not cause of just port money. But you can camp enough targets easily in different ways to earn significant funds. And you can accomplish these things without fancy gear. i mean i think they cover most bases except melee.. I mean, yeah, shaman is great, enchanter also is great. Is enchanter an all around class though? It can do a lot of things great, but it also cannot do a lot of other things.. But i'd say best all around class comes down to a druid vs a shaman in my eyes.. I realize most higher level groups, grouping for casual xp don't want a druid. cause another class can usually fill the specific need they are looking for better.. But they could still fill the gaps of many classes in a group if needed..
What can an enchanter not do?
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Old 08-02-2024, 09:04 AM
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Old 08-02-2024, 09:58 AM
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What can an enchanter not do?
I mean.. A lot really. and an enchanter can do a lot a druid can't do. I'm not here to argue if an enchanter is stronger or better than a druid.. But a druid does have access to more tools, quality of life spells, and a multitude of different ways to XP. I think you've been playing long enough to know exactly the things an enchanter can and cant do. and the things a druid can and cant do.

I'm sticking to the subject of this thread- best ALL AROUND class. To me a druid checks that box. Just my opinion though.
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Old 08-02-2024, 11:56 AM
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Best all-around is probably fair. DPS is reasonable. Healing is good. Utility/buffs are good. Pretty tanky. You can kind of do a little bit of everything pretty well. You can duo with any class and add a lot of value and be fairly efficient...besides maybe a wizard. They're not the most time or cost efficient though. A half ass geared enchanter can force multiple an xp group way more and take down way more solo targets. Not to mention they easily navigate most dungeons and split the camps with ease.

Druids are a good arguement just because of a lower cost barrier. I think their lack of slow or indoor lull limits them a little bit more because they dont have much in terms of dealing with summons. But track does open some options the other two miss out on for named cycles.
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Old 08-02-2024, 12:48 PM
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Being able debuff MR with an irresistible spell, slow well, kinda dps, and kinda heal forever makes the class capable.

Outside debuffing and mana generation the rest of those skills are mediocre. They also are without any lull or real CC method. You can basically put out 50dps and heal the same amount nearly forever. The gameplay is like laying siege to something…you just hope to survive longer than the enemy.

I only have one 60 that can charm (Druid). Even with its limitations anytime I solo and can charm or the target won’t summon I play it over the shaman. I used the Druid to farm my wiz’s Dragonbane herb since torp-tanking seahorses was not fun nor fast.
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Old 08-02-2024, 02:19 PM
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potg (lvl 60) is their one good buff

they dont do any damage unless there is an appropriate level animal around

tanky? lol

their CC is root

will heal themselves oom unless there is a slower

do druids work until 50? sure, GL doing anything that isn't charming or just being carried by charming enc / necro afterwards tho

fwiw i pimped my druid - full SS, epic, the works and solo charmed the whole way...did CT gators, OT, EJ, bats n bugs, chardok, then bear pits...that was the only decent way to level a druid because you'd just be laughed out of groups

and quadding is awful, dont get me started

so you gotta go through all that for a pretty good buff and a port bot....ok and some fast heals for vyemm / topping off melee dps in raids
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