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Old 06-28-2023, 10:16 PM
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Old 06-28-2023, 11:08 PM
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To play Devil’s advocate:

Normies really don’t give a fuck about people who are currently in shape but who are lifetime fitness freaks, always in shape. What normies like and respect are people who were very fat and then lost all the weight

The pictures that used to get the most upvotes on fitness sites I followed were the biggest fat to fit before and after transformations. Those would beat any bodybuilder in terms of upvotes and praise, always

And it’s not just validation and praise from the public, something people crave more and more in this social media age. It’s also money. If you are smart about it, you can literally pull a Jared from Subway (minus the diddling kids) and claim you lost the weight due to whatever product or gym and sell them your before and after pics to use in advertisements

So heaps of praise and validation from the public, being a role model and inspiration, and possibly being given money if you play your cards right…

….You wouldn’t just be losing fat for you, yknow. Not if you want it to be bigger than that
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Old 06-29-2023, 12:19 AM
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To a large extent I agree. Just like to win some gender and sexuality related arguments, some people lean WAYY too fucking hard on the concept that hermaphrodites exist, therefore everything is a spectrum, because some people are born with both genitals, therefore everything is really nothing and nothing is really everything and therefore we can make the rules up as we go to whatever makes me feel better about myself (this is just my dumb uneducated take on it, not looking to start a debate on this subject)

The same idea can be applied to the other factors in obesity. The most simple and most important factor is energy in vs energy out, but there are many little complicating factors like different genetic metabolic rates, different grellin hunger hormone levels, availability of healthy food, etc

All of these other factors are concisely summarized in this video by Jeff Nippard I previously posted to the Lose Weight thread. To what degree you want to lean on these other factors as excuses for your success or more likely your failure (“cope” as you call it) depends on the person. I personally put a shit ton of value on energy in vs energy out and have no qualms about calling people who fail undisciplined and lazy…

Â…And, if I could volunteer to be injected with DNA that would change my metabolic rate and hunger negatively so I could prove I could STILL lose fat through sheer effort and willpower even with a bigger genetic disadvantage I would. But alas we lack the technology to give me shittier genetics

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ignoring your sad obsession with lgbtq people, i just want to say i'm glad you're following jeff nippard. he's very pretty, and his stuff is always well-sourced and generally based on legitimate science- which is super impressive, especially as someone without a graduate degree in a related field.

to date he is the only "big name" i've seen come out with a decent glute hypertrophy program. if you're writing exercise programs in 2023 and not including a method of autoregulation it's time for you to find a new job tbh. lucy davis and bret contreras got nothin' on nippard <3

quality video that everyone should watch! that was a good link
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Old 06-29-2023, 12:44 AM
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Don’t shame my secret t.girl fetish that all of us conserves have. Love is love. Ya, his voice is boring but he def knows his stuff and backs everything with research

Not singling you out, but while I’m aware of the other complicating factors working against people, I personally don’t see much benefit to bringing them up to someone needing to lose weight. Especially since most of them cannot by changed by any drug or activity, they’re truly genetic

Hearing about them I personally see as disempowering. There’s a one legged dude that hobbles up the mountain I regularly do on his arm crutches, and it’s considered a difficult/advanced steep hike. There’s a 90+ yr old man who looks like the Crypt Keeper who gets wheeled out in a wheelchair onto a chair that lowers him into the pool, and then he drags himself across with his one functioning limb while I constantly glance worried that at any moment he could drown on the spot

That’s the stuff I find inspirational and recommend someone look at. Not the negatives working against them that they can’t change. What you focus on, you get more of

It’s def not for everyone, but I always like the approach of hustle porn motivational bro speak
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Old 06-29-2023, 12:58 AM
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i also enjoy military-type men yelling at me to get out of bed and get to work! there is meaning in the struggle xD

the better we understand ourselves and the various factors contributing to whatever problems we have, the better equipped we are to fight. it helps to have an inquisitive mind bc you don't wanna feel down and nocebo yourself, but willful ignorance is not the move.

we're amazing organisms capable of great feats of adaptation!
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What's a calorie, is it related to a carrot?
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Old 08-04-2023, 12:56 PM
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What's a calorie, is it related to a carrot?
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Old 08-06-2023, 09:53 PM
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Imagine needing to burn calories
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