Iksar Shaman - Solo Challenges? - Page 77

Naethyn · #**761** 02-07-2024, 03:27 PM

Min max is an illusion. Fashion is respect.

Naethyn · #**762** 02-07-2024, 10:18 PM

What shaman has highest cha for DI procs?

fortior · #**763** 02-10-2024, 12:49 AM

iksar and barb are tied at 60 cha

Toxigen · #**764** 02-12-2024, 07:52 AM

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Which slopes and where? I’ve got more than a half dozen good ski resorts within 2-3 hours drive. The snow was pretty bad early season in CO but we got some nice dumps in the last few weeks and it’s supposed to dump again tonight.

was at sunday river, 10/10 weather, natural snow was a little thin but their snowmaking is fantastic

got a little over 80k vertical in 3 days, no lift lines just rippin it up

DeathsSilkyMist · #**765** 02-16-2024, 12:17 PM

Made a video to debunk the silly claims about slowed mob DPS being too low and Blight, Hammer of the Scourge DPS being too low.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuQID0TkPsQ - logs are in the description.

Worn AC on Shaman: 103 (Banded Armor is 91 worn AC using a full set as reference).
STR on Shaman: 255
DEX on Shaman: 190

Total DPS done to the Shaman: 11.54 DPS on average from a level 50 mob slowed by 70% via Togor's Insects.

The two giants at the bottom of FM Giant Fort are higher level than PoM Rats, and have a slightly higher damage table too. This means PoM Rats would do a bit less DPS on average, which would be closer to the 10 DPS that was used in my examples previously. Here is a breakdown of expected PoM Rat DPS of 10.44:

Blight, Hammer of the Scourge DPS: 3.23 DoT DPS + 2.9 White Damage DPS = 6.13 DPS on average.

Troxx · #**766** 02-16-2024, 04:49 PM

I’m really confused what you’re trying to accomplish here.

First:

why in the hell would you parse this at 103 worm ac? My shaman is pretty shit geared for a level 60 (magelo below) and has 187 worn ac. 16 of that is shield ac. Why would you bother with a parse that is so ludicrously below the ac expectations of a shaman in this level range? I am genuinely confused.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Blue:Jolav

Second:

You cannot assume that just because one mob is level 50 and has a hit range of whatever to whatever and another mob is level 48 and has a lower hit range (min vs max) means that they are directly comparable. Velious is the final expansion where mob ac is notoriously higher and individual mob attack values are sometimes higher. If you are counting on wiki for p99 giving you an actual value of a mobs actual ac …. lol. I bet it is driven only by some algorithm from the players side based on an estimate due to its level. It might be right. It might be really wrong). Disregarding separate zones/expansions we all know that even within classic eq there are mobs that just simply do not follow the rules of whatever expansion they were a part of. I find this confusing because if you want to use PoM rats as an example—- why not just parse the rats themselves? Why try to extrapolate information from a separate mob from a separate expansion?

Circling back to “First” to support my concerns addressed in point 2:

-The level 50 giant did 11.54dps to a shaman with 103 worn ac.
-The rats in question did 10.44dps to your shaman while you were leveling.

Was your shaman naked other than a full set of banded (91ac) and a pair of 6ac/65hp rings when this data was collected? Cause that’s 103 worn ac. I think it is much more safe to assume that your worn ac was considerably higher.

Maybe go parse a rat in PoM witb 103 worn ac?

Actually I’ll go you better and run my shamans ass to FM and parse that giant at 187 worn ac with a 70% slow

… back in a bit I have the day off so I’m gonna go collect data

Toxigen · #**767** 02-16-2024, 04:53 PM

hey look this thread again

DeathsSilkyMist · #**768** 02-16-2024, 05:01 PM

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I’m really confused what you’re trying to accomplish here.

First:

why in the hell would you parse this at 103 worm ac? My shaman is pretty shit geared for a level 60 (magelo below) and has 187 worn ac. 16 of that is shield ac. Why would you bother with a parse that is so ludicrously below the ac expectations of a shaman in this level range? I am genuinely confused.

That's easy. You consistently try and move the goalposts whenever the data shows you are wrong. Low AC tests ensure the DPS is not being affected by whatever random AC goalpost number you think is too high. If I put on more AC, I take less damage. Me taking less damage is not helping your argument.

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You cannot assume that just because one mob is level 50 and has a hit range of whatever to whatever and another mob is level 48 and has a lower hit range (min vs max) means that they are directly comparable.

I have log evidence of PoM Rats doing less damage, and video/log evidence of the FM Giants under the Fort. You have yet to provide anything to back up this claim that the PoM Rats will do significantly more damage. You are just spouting random opinions right now.

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Actually I’ll go you better and run my shamans ass to FM and parse that giant at 187 worn ac with a 70% slow

Yes, please go and actually collect data for once.

Troxx · #**769** 02-16-2024, 06:02 PM

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Eldak Howlingbear on 2/16/2024 in 976sec

Jolav
--- DMG: 14 @ 0 sdps (0 dps in 976s) [100%]
--- DMG to PC: 13796 @14dps

It's actually 14.135dps

Lol I don't know what the fuck is wrong with your parses but at 187 worn ac (magelo below) and a continuous 70% togors insects slow (refreshed every 90 seconds or so) Eldak Howlingbear did 14dps over 976 seconds.

Magelo (well above banded armor + 2 6ac 65hp rings):

https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Blue:Jolav

Methods:

-I pulled it with slow (successful first attempt)
-backed up to a wall before it got to me
-I malo'd it (cause why not)
-I kept it slowed the whole time
-healed as needed
-I did nothing other than 1 epic melee attack at the start. No autoattack. No riposte.

Riddle me this: how on earth with 103 worn ac (55% of my worn ac - and no shield ac since you were hammering) did you clock 11.54 incoming dps? Remember you were also gonna have to deal with ripostes that I never had to.

I went into this test expecting to have a much lower incoming dps than the numbers you posted based off the data provided. I ended up taking 21% more dps than the numbers you provided. I would hope to god that a 15 minute continuous parse was long enough to even out major swings this way or that.

Are you willfully posting inaccurate data or have the gods of the random number generator so universally blessed you over a few short fights and so universally poked my shaman in the ol' brown stinker sufficiently enough to explain this discrepancy.

/boggle

DeathsSilkyMist · #**770** 02-16-2024, 06:04 PM

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It's actually 14.135dps

Lol I don't know what the fuck is wrong with your parses but at 187 worn ac (magelo below) and a continuous 70% togors insects slow (refreshed every 90 seconds or so) Eldak Howlingbear did 14dps over 976 seconds.

Magelo (well above banded armor + 2 6ac 65hp rings):

https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Blue:Jolav

Methods:

-I pulled it with slow (successful first attempt)
-backed up to a wall before it got to me
-I malo'd it (cause why not)
-I kept it slowed the whole time
-healed as needed
-I did nothing other than 1 epic melee attack at the start. No autoattack. No riposte.

Riddle me this: how on earth with 103 worn ac (55% of my worn ac - and no shield ac since you were hammering) did you clock 11.54 incoming dps? Remember you were also gonna have to deal with ripostes that I never had to.

I went into this test expecting to have a much lower incoming dps than the numbers you posted based off the data provided. I ended up taking 21% more dps than the numbers you provided. I would hope to god that a 15 minute continuous parse was long enough to even out major swings this way or that.

Are you willfully posting inaccurate data or have the gods of the random number generator so universally blessed you over a few short fights and so universally poked my shaman in the ol' brown stinker sufficiently enough to explain this discrepancy.

/boggle

You do realize that a single fight can have higher DPS than average, right? That is why I parse more than 1 fight. Also, you have admitted your parser doesn't work in certain scenarios lol.