Are we allowed to like AI art?

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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In the whole thread, who is the most right?



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Lol the pic.

If the bot says you're smart, you probably shouldn't be listened to at all.

Also the tie is far too short.

[shovelquest]

So after looking at Pantheon I am 110% backer of AI.

If you just asked AI to make EQ 2 we'd have a true successor to Everquest.

Not even the original creator could do it after trying TWICE!

AI would spit out a game that was exactly like the original but totally different. (presuming we get to that point in technology)

And humans will always try to "do better" than the original: AKA this.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So after looking at Pantheon I am 110% backer of AI.

If you just asked AI to make EQ 2 we'd have a true successor to Everquest.

Not even the original creator could do it after trying TWICE!

AI would spit out a game that was exactly like the original but totally different. (presuming we get to that point in technology)

And humans will always try to "do better" than the original: AKA this.

AI is great for generating worlds for games that aren't EQ.

A huge part of the charm of EQ is that you can learn the world ... because it's finite.

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

AI is great for generating worlds for games that aren't EQ.

A huge part of the charm of EQ is that you can learn the world ... because it's finite.

To a degree I agree with you, like, I totally respect the finite world of EQ that you speak of being a part of the magic.

But, that doesn't mean I don't want the rest of the expansions to feel like the first 3!

And humans proved that they just stray farther and farther from the path because of their "soul" or ego or whatever with the expansions we got. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Ciderpress]

I find my profile to be pretty fair actually no complaints

[Duik]

I comply with my silicon based (lolocaust!) overlords.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To a degree I agree with you, like, I totally respect the finite world of EQ that you speak of being a part of the magic.

But, that doesn't mean I don't want the rest of the expansions to feel like the first 3!

And humans proved that they just stray farther and farther from the path because of their "soul" or ego or whatever with the expansions we got. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you asked AI to make a new world for you ... without giving it a giant pile of human-written prompts ... you will almost certainly get something very similar to existing worlds.

LLM AI is not good at making a new anything. Quite to the contrary, LLM AI is only good at mimicking stuff it's seen a bunch of times.

But, could a creative dev use AI to make more interesting and diverse worlds vs. a non-AI dev? Absolutely, 100% ... you're just back to relying on the human (with their ego or whatever) to make it good.

[Smoofers]

This whole thread is people who didn't make it coping about why they didn't make it.

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

LLM AI is not good at making a new anything. Quite to the contrary, LLM AI is only good at mimicking stuff it's seen a bunch of times.

It's actually quite good in the "creative" conceptual phase of a project.

Often giving new ideas and thinking outside the box!

Unique patterns, crazy vistas, strange characters.

It's quite good at creating strange new things.

Here is an acomplished Concept artist, who did amazing work on Andor (with the help of AI) talking about it!

https://rare.makersplace.com/2023/01...-riabovitchev/

What I like about AI is it’s like a second imagination. For me, when I use AI, I often think “Oh, this is boring” or “not interesting,” but then I click a button and it’s like, “Whoa, what’s going on?” It sparks my imagination and I start thinking about how I can use the image.

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[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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