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Old 07-30-2023, 03:38 PM
Ripqozko Ripqozko is offline
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If I got cek 2h I’d prob still use double epics for grinding xp since rangers can’t mitigate for shit. I don’t think the dps difference is substantial enough to totally ditch trying to slow. Like the herb spade I found wasn’t really worth giving up double epics for. Obviously cek 2h is better but I haven’t played with that on a Ranger to know if it’s worth it. Is it truly THAT much better.
it outdps's my kflame, yes its that much better
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Old 07-30-2023, 04:15 PM
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it outdps's my kflame, yes its that much better
Ehh let’s see a parse comparison. Not sure it’s worth giving up slow proc potential for some extra dps. Raids/groups sure.
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Old 07-30-2023, 04:59 PM
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Ehh let’s see a parse comparison. Not sure it’s worth giving up slow proc potential for some extra dps. Raids/groups sure.
i can only give ya raid stuff, im not really interested in doing bunch of group parses. its not like ya aiming for it anyways.
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Old 07-30-2023, 05:50 PM
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i can only give ya raid stuff, im not really interested in doing bunch of group parses. its not like ya aiming for it anyways.
No just curious can you find a high hp mob like that giant in Fm and compare double epic vs cek. I’d do it if I had it just curious how much the difference truly is.
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Old 07-30-2023, 06:05 PM
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No just curious can you find a high hp mob like that giant in Fm and compare double epic vs cek. I’d do it if I had it just curious how much the difference truly is.
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Old 07-30-2023, 06:19 PM
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For reference choamsky is a 1h ranger
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Old 07-30-2023, 08:40 PM
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My ranger isn’t BiS but most Vindi parses (which are short) are in the high 50’s to low 60’s with a Silver Whip of Rage and Claw of Lightning. With a spiked seahorse, shiss, and no AOB items the Meljeldin is mid 60’s to 71 was my best. Most BoF and Swiftblade friends are in that mid 60 range.

I have Yeli gloves now and can do more parsing on a low AC mob like Bloodmaw. Ideally I’d have a Baton of Flame too and some AoB’s but oh well. Also I don’t buy high vs low ac favoring 1h. The dmg bonus on a Meljeldin is 34, it’s 11 on a BoF and 0 on your offhand. Main hand to main hand the dmg bonus/delay ratio is .8947 (2h) vs .647 (BoF). So with a lot of skunky hits the 2h in general is returning a better return on investment.
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Old 08-02-2023, 11:53 AM
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For the most part, I agree that in this game 2 handers are likely all that matters, which is why I consider Slam a far more important racial then fsi or regen for Shadowknights specifically. Warriors it's still super nice to have but kick, and shamans it's kind of not great at 0 skill level bash
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Old 08-03-2023, 08:42 AM
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It feels nice just having it available honestly. Just another button to push in a game where pure classes dont have many abilities in the first place. I miss having slam on my human sk, whereas it feels super good using a 2h on my troll sk.

Probably the reason why I tend to use 1h/shield on my human, just so I can press the bash button to make the gameplay feel a little more interactive with a filler. No logic to it other than that.
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Old 08-12-2023, 04:18 PM
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Have a 40 DE SK that levels in a trio, currently have a Nocti blade + SBS for bash. Looking to plan my next weapon upgrade. Seems that a shard of night would be optimal but poor fashion quest.

I could also get an argent protector.

Thoughts on importance of bash+AC vs 2H dmg as MT in exp groups? Consensus still seems to favor 2H based on what I've read, but the difference doesn't become super apparent until damage bonus ramps in high 50s.
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