Iksar Shaman - Solo Challenges?

[Tann]

Originally Posted by aussenseiter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This thread has gone signficantly off the rails into why-to-do-math territory.

Every thread with topics such as "best race for ____ class" and "FSI vs. Regen" will always devolve into MathQuest and "I'm right you're wrong"Quest. A common denominator within all the threads exists, a poster perhaps, that might be the source of this corruption.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Tann [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Every thread with topics such as "best race for ____ class" and "FSI vs. Regen" will always devolve into MathQuest and "I'm right you're wrong"Quest. A common denominator within all the threads exists, a poster perhaps, that might be the source of this corruption.

The "I'm right you're wrong" Questers are the problem indeed. That is Trolls like Troxx who cannot back up their claims with evidence, and thus resort to trolling to try and bully people into submission. Trolls also band together, as they use Argumentum Ad Populum fallacy as a weapon. "5 people disagree, therefore you are wrong".

[DeathsSilkyMist]

I think I see some of the confusion people have with the DoT damage averages on a Normal Distribution.

The main issue with DoTs is they do have a cap, because proccing them again doesn't give you double DoT damage. However, you can only get 2 procs per minute at maximum, which means this really isn't a problem in practice. Basically if you could get 132 PPM (1 proc per second), you would only do 544 DoT Damage + 132 x 40 Direct Damage = 5,824 Damage. A 100 Damage DD would do 13200 Damage by comparison.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=523 - In this example the JBB Shaman with Blight, Hammer of the Scourge is enganged in a fight that lasts 132 seconds. The Proc is a spell called Scourge, which lasts 126 seconds, and does 40 DD + 24 Damage a tick.

The Shaman has 1.3 PPM normally because they have 135 DEX. Since they are spamming JBB, they get 7.5/12.77 swings. This means your PPM is reduced to 0.76 PPM after accounting for the number of missed swings.

Here are the possible places you can proc and tick, since we are casting JBB. I am assuming the cast starts halfway through the first two ticks, which is why we start at 3 seconds. The numbers in paranthesis are ticks, and the bracketed number is the 0.5 swings triggering:

(0), 3, (6), 11, (12), (18), 19, (24), 27, (30), 35, (36), (42), 43, (48), (54), 51, [59], (60)

Using the numbers above, we could get a full 10 ticks from the DoT if you land it at the start. Our damage table will have 8 values for the 8 places where you could proc.

I will be using (t=x) to describe the seconds at which the proc occured. t=3 is 3 seconds into the fight:

[280 (t=3), 256 (t=11), 208 (t=19), 184 (t=27), 160 (t=35), 112 (t=43), 64 (t=51), 40 (t=59)] = (1304 damage / 8 values) = (163 average damage / 60 seconds) = 2.72 DPS x 0.76 PPM = 2.06 DPS

The 0.76 PPM is taking into account the chance of simply not procing at all. It is the same with DD Procs. If you have 0.5 PPM and your DD proc does 400 damage, you would end up doing (400 damage / 60 seconds) = 0.66 DPS x 0.5 PPM = 0.33 DPS.

Because the fight lasts 2 minutes, you have a total of 1.56 procs. This means you are guaranteed 1 DoT proc somehwere within the fight on average. The DoT lasts two minutes, so it can last the full duration of the fight. This means you have 4 possibilities on average: [Max DoT Damage, Zero Dot Damage, 1/4 DoT Damage, 3/4 DoT Damage] = [544, 0, 160, 400] = (1104 / 4) = 276 / 132 = 2.09 DPS, which is basically number we got from the 1 minute fight.

Since we do have the 0.56 procs still floating around, you would get an extra 40 DD half of the fights. So an extra 40 damage x 0.5 PPM = 20 damage / 132 seconds = 0.15 DPS.

So the total DPS would be 2.2 DPS per 2 minute fight, which is what I was using originally. Remember this still does not include white damage.

[Ripqozko]

DSM is the new kittens, enjoy apping

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

DSM is the new kittens, enjoy apping

This is one of the few random phrases Ripqozko posts in every thread he participates in for no discernable reason.

"<Poster> is the new <Guild>"

Nobody knows why he does this, and I would be curious to know how many of this specific random message is in his history. I would guess 50 posts of it at least.

Perhaps he has a bot posting for him.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is one of the few random phrases Ripqozko posts in every thread he participates in for no discernable reason.

"<Poster> is the new <Guild>"

Nobody knows why he does this, and I would be curious to know how many of this specific random message is in his history. I would guess 50 posts of it at least.

Perhaps he has a bot posting for him.

I just scrolled through his last 250 posts (6 months worth) and did not observe him say anything remotely similar to anyone but you. It constitutes a small percentage of what he has said and most threads he never says it at all. In fact, the only threads he has said it in have been the DSM threads.

Why would you lie about something so easy to fact check?

[Toxigen]

sorry you dont got iksar fashion hope this helps

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just scrolled through his last 250 posts (6 months worth) and did not observe him say anything remotely similar to anyone but you. It constitutes a small percentage of what he has said and most threads he never says it at all. In fact, the only threads he has said it in have been the DSM threads.

Why would you lie about something so easy to fact check?

Claiming I am lying is certainly a stretch. If you read what I posted, I made no claims about the frequency of which posters or guilds he chooses to put into his messages. It is honestly irrelevant, as spamming the same message that makes no sense is just that; spam. The message wording has some variation, but the overall pattern of the message is the same. I was just guessing at the post count and if he has a bot posting for him, it is not a factual claim. I admit the "every thread" was an exaggeration.

Grasping for straws as usual, since you cannot win the debate via logic and facts.

10 random examples I found with a quick search:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...0&postcount=83

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=558

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=508

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=467

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=216

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=145

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=333

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=157

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=153

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=166

etc.

[Toxigen]

jeez wonder what the pattern is

lol

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

jeez wonder what the pattern is

lol

Trolling and spamming, clearly. These messages have no relevance to the thread, the poster in question, or the guild in question. You could replace the poster and the guild, and the message would be equally nonsensical, irrelevant, and off-topic.

"Toxigen is the new Aftermath" is the same as "DSM is the new Kittens". Both are equally useless to the topic at hand, and say nothing about the poster or guild in question.