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Knockbacks not Working as Intended in PVP
On live in classic era, Intelligence based Caster's were all give a low resist knockback(or stun) to use in PvP as a spell interrupt. This added the dynamic of timing spells.
Wizard-Shock of Lightning(Landed like a Lure could partial but almost never saw resist)Knockback Mage-Shock of Blades(Landed like a Lure could partial but almost never saw resist)Knockback Enchanter-Chaotic Feeback(Landed like Lure like all enchanter spells always landed for full)Stun Necromancer-Poison bolt(Landed about the same rate as splurt)Knockback Currently these spells are being resisted regularly by Low to Moderate MR/PR targets. Even at 136 MR testing 2 out of 5 Shock of Lightnings were resisted. The results were worse for the other spells. Since Wizard's were easily one of the most prevalent classes during Classic PvP Shock of Lightning is the easiest spell to find proof for. Here are some Excerpts from Velious/Luclin era of players talking about the spell... Quote:
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Here's a Screenshot of a Shock of Lightning landing on a Level 60 High MR fully buffed very well known PvP Druid from Velious/Luclin Era [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Here's another [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Here's an example of someone's gear from that era showing the MR was close to if not higher than we have here. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] This is more proof than we have ever required to make any previous PvP change here. | ||||||
Last edited by Syft-X; 05-18-2015 at 10:04 AM..
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Every wizard from every guild that played Classic agrees on this, Shock of Lightning was even heavily used during the Wizard Best of the Best.
The only people who seem to disagree are from the guild Empire. Coincidentally they are vehemently protesting this classic implementation right as Velious is about to release. My guess is they fear Caster's interrupting their clerics on raids more than melee's running up and stunning. Either way this was simply a classic mechanic and shouldn't be held to a different standard or lawyer petitioned nonsensically simply because one guild fears it will negatively impact their raids.
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in your earlier thread there was a piece of evidence matching what I've been saying
After a certain amount of channeling, this spell barely interrupted ever if at all It was certainly great up to about 40, but fell apart hard afterwards (as far as interrupting) None of your screenshots have someone at 180+ magic resist. None of em. | ||
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As as mage from classic to POP, I can say that Shock of Blades was indeed resisted. It hit moreso than bolts would but the entire shock series could be resisted. Mages had zero unresistable spells.
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love the second screenshot
"Major gimp. epic wizard with no drop in every slot" even written on it | ||
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Goog quote from your link
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180 just... no for Kunark / early Velious era Seems like its pretty close to exact atm maybe a little high on the full resists but in my parsing nothing seemed off that I posted in shock thread Your 3rd ss has nothing to do with anything related to this | |||
Last edited by Nirgon; 05-18-2015 at 12:25 PM..
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@Haynar, as you can see members of Empire will flood the thread in minutes, offering nothing but hearsay in a clear agenda to make custom changes to the box that resemble nothing from classic. Never in the history of Bug Reports has someone collected as much proof for a classic change and had it challenged. They all claim to have played these classes in classic era, they have all posted screenshots of their classic toons. But none of them can provide a single screenshot of these spells being resisted in PvP. And thats all it would take to give credence to their claims, but it is impossible to provide what doesn't exist.
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Last edited by Syft-X; 05-18-2015 at 01:43 PM..
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there is nothing at all to suggest that darwoth has high magic resist
"lands like a lure" yet gets partialed to almost zero damage by an unbuffed druid who likely had <100 MR haha | ||
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If you think the average MR of people was 100 velious/luclin lol then might wanna think before you speak. OR just do what I did find some proof to refute it instead of expecting us to take the word of someone who never played classic.
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Last edited by Syft-X; 05-18-2015 at 02:35 PM..
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Look I play a wizard and I want you to be right but claiming unresistable at 160+ is insane
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