People are so lazy in this game.

[Snaggles]

There is a big difference between trying to coach a group to be more efficient and giving someone class notes. I probably would have asked if they can pull some too, which would have accomplished the same goal (more kills, less sitting) while giving them the autonomy to play how they want.

Who knows though? I expect this person would have still ragequit. P99 folks are pretty damn sensitive. I feel like even asking for buffs takes the social grace of a debutant.

[Jimjam]

When I play an enc or shaman I ensure I cast my best slow on all the green mobs so I can roll my eyes in exasperation when melee have the audacity to request a haste. Can’t you see I’m oom?! Work on your aggro!!

[Melodyy]

To the op: you came here looking for answers so I'll give you my take: your problems are of your own making, not lazy people.

You may be a good guy irl, but in-game you come across as an arrogant know-it-all that constantly tells every class--not just paladins--what they need to do, when they need to do it and where and how too. Yes, people are talking about you, and it's not positive. One thing you have going for you is you're a tank and some groups will take you in, but any group, given the choice between you and another tank, well, you'll lose. And you're an ok paladin, you pull well and generally keep mobs off of the others which is important. It's the attitude you bring. It's no wonder you joined the guild that you did, they fit well with your demeanor.

You mentioned earlier that you recently came back to the game after a long break. Not much speculation is needed to figure out why that happened. Maybe it's time for another, longer break.

In the meantime, you might try to tone it down some. It's probably not too late to regain a better reputation. Just keep in mind this is a game many of us enjoy relaxing with, and we want to have fun while we're playing. You haven't helped us do that at all.

By the way, was this too harsh? Since this thread started I've thought it should be moved to rants and flames.

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by Melodyy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To the op: you came here looking for answers so I'll give you my take: your problems are of your own making, not lazy people.

You may be a good guy irl, but in-game you come across as an arrogant know-it-all that constantly tells every class--not just paladins--what they need to do, when they need to do it and where and how too. Yes, people are talking about you, and it's not positive. One thing you have going for you is you're a tank and some groups will take you in, but any group, given the choice between you and another tank, well, you'll lose. And you're an ok paladin, you pull well and generally keep mobs off of the others which is important. It's the attitude you bring. It's no wonder you joined the guild that you did, they fit well with your demeanor.

You mentioned earlier that you recently came back to the game after a long break. Not much speculation is needed to figure out why that happened. Maybe it's time for another, longer break.

In the meantime, you might try to tone it down some. It's probably not too late to regain a better reputation. Just keep in mind this is a game many of us enjoy relaxing with, and we want to have fun while we're playing. You haven't helped us do that at all.

By the way, was this too harsh? Since this thread started I've thought it should be moved to rants and flames.

After reading this I re-read the original post and am a bit lost. It’s entirely possible a bit of column A and a bit of column B. The OP is giving one side of the situation and it’s possible they were more abrasive than described.

It’s also possible for a paladin to be lazy AF and just want to autoattack stuff that gets pulled to them. There are far more lazy hybrids than ones pushing the envelope (or even meeting the status quo of their abilities).

I’ve said the approach could likely have been tweaked. However, asking someone to help pull for example is not a crazy request. The game isn’t that hard…anyone can do it.

[Melodyy]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

After reading this I re-read the original post and am a bit lost. It’s entirely possible a bit of column A and a bit of column B. The OP is giving one side of the situation and it’s possible they were more abrasive than described.

The OP's first post may appear isolated, but since then it has evolved to where he has PO'd almost everyone.

I've said my piece and counted to 3 ...

[Gloomlord]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is a big difference between trying to coach a group to be more efficient and giving someone class notes. I probably would have asked if they can pull some too, which would have accomplished the same goal (more kills, less sitting) while giving them the autonomy to play how they want.

Who knows though? I expect this person would have still ragequit. P99 folks are pretty damn sensitive. I feel like even asking for buffs takes the social grace of a debutant.

Your second paragraph summarised this perfectly. P99 people, in general, may be "chill", but they are sensitive and lazy. It's a case "but inside doesn't matter". It doesn't matter what you feel is right morally or logically deep down -- you have to accommodate the norm of your environment.

As for what Melodyy is saying: you need to elaborate on how I've PO'd "everyone". A few excursions in Velks is enough to warrant this statement?

I joined Safe Space because I really do not have many options as an Australian with the time zones, but whatever.

I honestly think, whomever you are, you either just want to get on your high horse to judge me here, or you're not understanding I'm trying to be a good paladin. It's utterly exhausting trying to do so many roles sometimes. All I want is a little help.

I will get confrontational if I feel you don't pull your weight in group. I even removed a rogue yesterday for going AFK for too many times without notification. I fully admit that.

[Swish]

I like the OP and see where he's coming from.

[Snaggles]

Same. This read as the expectation for a Bell Curve group participant. Some people are very bad, some amazing…most in that middle of normal.

We all have life frustrations outside the game. I can see this person (not the OP) just having a bad day. When I have those, I don’t seek out a PuG though.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is a big difference between trying to coach a group to be more efficient and giving someone class notes. I probably would have asked if they can pull some too, which would have accomplished the same goal (more kills, less sitting) while giving them the autonomy to play how they want.

Who knows though? I expect this person would have still ragequit. P99 folks are pretty damn sensitive. I feel like even asking for buffs takes the social grace of a debutant.

In my experience they'd probably get even more annoyed if you asked them to pull since that's more work lol

[kjs86z2]

Originally Posted by Andyman1022 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We all still play this game due to mental illness