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Old 12-18-2023, 04:59 PM
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Default Dark elf mages and COTH

Which places specifically can a dark elf (male or female?) not COTH at without being shrunk? I find that they're rather small as is and often can hide in places together with gnomes where other races can't.
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Old 12-18-2023, 08:05 PM
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I'm not sure what you're asking, dark elves need to shrink to drop eyes just like the other medium/large races. Are you talking about hiding spots? Can't think of any in that case.
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Old 12-18-2023, 08:10 PM
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Which places specifically can a dark elf (male or female?) not COTH at without being shrunk? I find that they're rather small as is and often can hide in places together with gnomes where other races can't.
The answer to your question is literally all places in all of the game.

Not shrunk and not gnome = no coth
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Old 12-19-2023, 05:47 AM
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It’s not about hiding. The small size of the Gnome model (or any sufficiently shrunken player) lets your character clip through walls far enough that summoning an Eye of Zomm causes it to appear inside the wall, fall out of bounds, and be automatically returned to the zone’s succor point. Then you can click on people who just entered the zone, invite them to your group, and Call of the Hero them.

If your mage is going to become a cothbot, it needs to be a Gnome or stocked with shrink potions. But depending on the frequency of use, you might need to restock frequently. Just go Gnome.
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Old 12-19-2023, 01:04 PM
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It’s not about hiding. The small size of the Gnome model (or any sufficiently shrunken player) lets your character clip through walls far enough that summoning an Eye of Zomm causes it to appear inside the wall, fall out of bounds, and be automatically returned to the zone’s succor point. Then you can click on people who just entered the zone, invite them to your group, and Call of the Hero them.

If your mage is going to become a cothbot, it needs to be a Gnome or stocked with shrink potions. But depending on the frequency of use, you might need to restock frequently. Just go Gnome.
Is this classic? The eye warp
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Old 12-19-2023, 05:37 PM
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How on earth would coth have been used otherwise? lol
I think maybe he didn’t know about the wall-eyeball thing.

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Is this classic? The eye warp
I don’t know if it’s classic, but it might be. The point is that if you somehow go out of bounds, the game puts you back in a “safe” spot.
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Old 12-20-2023, 07:40 AM
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I think maybe he didn’t know about the wall-eyeball thing.
no i mean as the spell was originally designed without the wall drop
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Old 12-21-2023, 06:29 AM
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no i mean as the spell was originally designed without the wall drop
you can in theory use it to break aggro, some people farm juggs that way without a monk to pull
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Old 12-21-2023, 08:24 PM
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no i mean as the spell was originally designed without the wall drop
Indeed. It seems the eyeball-wall-drop mechanic, though probably unintended, completes Call of the Hero as a tool, and adds a unique and vital ability to the magician. Also, Eye of Zomm is 99% useless except for this application. And lucky for us, the magician can cast both spells natively.

Like, it might all be accident and coincidence, but it’s great game design. Some “bugs” are good for the game and best left in. Just like FD pulling, as another poster mentioned above.
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Old 12-19-2023, 12:13 PM
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How on earth would coth have been used otherwise? lol
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