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Old 10-10-2022, 02:34 PM
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Automatics outperform manuals now, both on the street and on the track.

That wasn't the case until recently so you needed a manual if you wanted performance.
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Your statement about performance shows a bias and I think you have forgotten the man.
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Old 10-10-2022, 02:40 PM
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Torqueflight..

Your statement about performance shows a bias and I think you have forgotten the man.
It's not a bias. The fact is stick shifts don't sell anymore and the C8's automatic transmission performs better.

https://www.musclecarsandtrucks.com/...-transmission/

https://www.motor1.com/news/407219/g...nual-corvette/
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Old 10-10-2022, 02:43 PM
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Guys, this is a political thread.

Which car is Republican?

Which car is Democrat?
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Old 10-10-2022, 02:45 PM
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It's not a bias. The fact is stick shifts don't sell anymore and the C8's automatic transmission performs better.

https://www.musclecarsandtrucks.com/...-transmission/

https://www.motor1.com/news/407219/g...nual-corvette/
The fact is manufacturers removed them as automatics became standard because you have to learn them. They also have promises for an all EV future, EV's do not have manual transmissions so it wouldn't make any sense to have them.
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Old 10-10-2022, 02:45 PM
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Driving a Ford F600 flatbed and some sort of old Peterbilt cured me of any desire to ever shift gears the old-fashioned way unless I have no choice. Hated every second of driving those heaps.

As for electrics, the attempts to gradually defacto mandate them is effectively an assult on rural America. They suck for long distances, and suck even worse in the cold. Performance cars are probably a good use for that type of technology, electric motor torque curves being what they are.
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Performance cars are probably a good use for that type of technology, electric motor torque curves being what they are.
Who would go out to watch an all-EV drag race once that becomes standard.. will they even have those, I mean.. why right?
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Who would go out to watch an all-EV drag race once that becomes standard.. will they even have those, I mean.. why right?
out of curiosoity, is it the like combustion that makes those cool? Or the speed, engineering, and control of the driver?
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Old 10-10-2022, 02:53 PM
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The fact is manufacturers removed them as automatics became standard because you have to learn them. They also have promises for an all EV future, EV's do not have manual transmissions so it wouldn't make any sense to have them.
Stick shifts are relics. It's like the really old column stick shifts. Remember those? They don't exist anymore because floor-mounted sticks were better. Now it's automatics.

I don't even care anymore. I used to but I switched to luxury cars. I want my comfort now that I'm older lol.
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out of curiosoity, is it the like combustion that makes those cool? Or the speed, engineering, and control of the driver?
Combustion is a part, sure. The sounds, the smells. mm hmm

Speed, engineering and control of the driver are all factors also, as well as the drama, intensity, bad luck, parts breaking.

The roots of American motorsports begins with depression-era kids who went down to the local junkyards and purchased junk model Fords. They stripped them down and added what speed parts were they could.

It was something for poor folks to do, because you only had radio. No TV, no Internets. It also became part of American culture. In fact, the salt flats were just guys going out to remote areas to get away from the cops.
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