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Old 12-23-2024, 05:17 PM
Wakanda Wakanda is offline
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Default I been playing Pantheon BTW

I was the highest level Enchanter on my server, but haven't played for 3 days because it's really hard to find a group when everyone is lower level than you are + there's a major shortage of tanks, and unlike EQ, if you don't have a tank, you literally cannot do anything.

That's my main complaint about the game honestly. Like you know how on EQ, 2 random players could group in GFAY or NRO and just start killing stuff? Maybe even go to Oasis and duo some crocs, pick up a 3rd or 4th player here and there, and exp away?

That's not a thing in Pantheon. You cannot really do anything meaningful without a full group that has a tank in it. Someone told me you also can't do anything without an Enchanter (IDK how accurate this is since I always play Enchanter, but I do know if a single mob doesn't get CC'd or someone breaks it, it's almost a guaranteed wipe).

I'm still hopeful for the game, but that's the main things I want to see changed

like make it to where solo'ing sucks, but is still a viable option for non summoner/necromancers. make it to where duo'ing and trio'ing is still a viable form of exp'ing. make it to where groups can still kill some stuff without tanks.

like my group was full except for a tank when someone in our group decided they wanted to try killing a single mob that we normally kill with ease with a tank in the group. despite having two healers, the group completely wiped in like 20 seconds.

i feel like also:

1) make tanks deal more damage. like you know how warriors in EQ are also kind of damage dealers? Well tanks in Pantheon are basically worse versions of prot warriors in WoW, they literally do less damage than healers, and no one wants to play them.

2) make some of the other melee dps a little bit tanky so groups can pull single mobs while looking for a tank. like it actually blows my mind how rangers and rogues get melted as fast as a wizard. ive never seen a monk in my group btw because they dont start near the elves and halflings.

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game is still great and promising, but those are two things i would like to see changed. like i havent actually quit, im just hoping people will catch up to me in level so i can get more groups, and maybe ill play p99 for the xmas bonus. what was happening to me when i was playing, i was having to group with people way lower level than me doing content way too low level for me since they were the only people online, and when we died, i was losing more exp than i was gaining since the exp in those groups was terrible for me.

and dying in pantheon is really easy, even if mobs are low level. Like it's very believable that a level 15 enchanter would easily get killed by a gray con level 4 elite. Maybe something they also need to address in the future.
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Old 12-23-2024, 05:36 PM
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Also the logical solution was... okay I will make an alt... there seems to be a shortage of tanks, so I'll make a Halfling Dire Lord. After an hour of having every name rejected, I found out through other players that they banned making new characters on well populated servers... so I was stuck being forced to play my character who had no one to play with

And meanwhile the noob area in our zone is dead with players complaining that there's no one to group with, so I think most of them just decided the game was boring and quit, and I personally talked to so many people who wanted to make a tank to solve the tank shortage, but they couldnt because it was banned, so I think the decision they made was actually a terrible business move since it made new players think the game was a dead ghost town that sucked since there's no other noobs to group with and the higher level people who realize we needed more tanks can't even re-roll

but also it completely ignored the fact that the elf starting area wasn't over-populated at all, and had a huge shortage of players (most tank players start in the human/dwarf/ogre area for obvious reasons, ogres make much better dire lords than halflings and elves can't be monks).

So like they made the elf starting area basically feel really dead because an area really far away was allegedly over populated lol

i better solution would have been to allow players to create elves / halflings, and/or tanks/clerics (theres a ton of shamans, but not that many clerics). but also like communicating that the server is locked because i dont think most people even realized it and just thought the game was dead.

Also again, terrible business move because I had two friends who never even played EQ before watch me stream pantheon on our discord server and both of them wanted to buy it and i told them not to because i knew they couldnt play with me and i wasnt about to start over on a dead server because i made that mistake on classic WoW and ended up on an unplayable server 2 months later. so nah. ill take the high population server, thank you lol.
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Old 12-23-2024, 05:44 PM
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also yeah, the fact you cant progress in the game without a full group is also going to become even more problematic as the game becomes top heavy. like i dont think people who play in thronefast realize how sparse players are in wild's end even though i personally prefer wild's end over TF.

most players would be forced to quit at level 5 (exp starts to slow down quite a bit once bogbellied frogs green out and you almost have to start grouping)

game still has a ton of potential and is the most EQ-like game ive ever played other than EQ.
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Old 12-23-2024, 08:09 PM
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I hope you are posting this stuff to their forum as well. :P I'd play a tank for sure but if no-one can even create one on a server that is lacking them.. It's worse then a game with inviable character builds that don't allow respec. The whole server is screwed lol.
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Old 12-23-2024, 09:29 PM
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that's a wild design choice, i assume the idea was you don't have to worry about class balance as much if nobody can do shit without a group anyway

just gonna lead to the meta of if you aren't playing whatever the correct dps class is fuck off or you get carried through the content as a favor after it's already trivial to the tank / healer like how it worked on shards of dalaya with 6man raid content
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Old 12-23-2024, 10:46 PM
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not a post in sight that is readable. i aint reading dat shit
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Old 12-24-2024, 03:26 AM
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I hope you are posting this stuff to their forum as well. :P I'd play a tank for sure but if no-one can even create one on a server that is lacking them.. It's worse then a game with inviable character builds that don't allow respec. The whole server is screwed lol.
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Old 12-24-2024, 06:59 AM
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I hope you are posting this stuff to their forum as well. :P
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i would like to but you cant if you werent a pledge from years ago ! lol
Haha. Sounds like no makei bad posts so the griftie can continue.

Love to be proven wrong.
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Old 12-24-2024, 08:27 AM
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Haha. Sounds like no makei bad posts so the griftie can continue.

Love to be proven wrong.
people should fund it just to beat Duke Nukem Forever's record of 14 years in development.
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Old 12-24-2024, 08:41 AM
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People should just play only the freebie releases and string those bitches along.

Better?
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