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![]() As a quick aside, the vengeful skeletons have been flagged for July1999, and the questgiver, Thadres Thyme, should be flagged similarly if she hasn't been already. A detailed map of Halas (copyright '99) doesn't list her in the expected location (McQuaid's Dark Stout) or anywhere else for that matter.
- https://web.archive.org/web/20020617...&pg=5&sortby=3 Quote:
There was a previous issue raised regarding the reward of The Vengeful Musicians quest. It seems the quest should be awarding more than just Garsen's Brewing List. - https://web.archive.org/web/19991124...ke/eqbrew.html Quote:
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- https://groups.google.com/g/alt.game...m/frZNa-hdC0cJ Quote:
Lucy has entries for Garsen's Brewing List plus the two actual recipe books, Garsen's Notes and Garsen's Secret Brews. Allakhazam has book text for Garsen's Notes and Garsen's Secret Brews. ----- The recipes contained within the two recipe books constituted a sizeable expansion to the number of brewable drinks in-game. - https://web.archive.org/web/20000818...ct.net/~bitsy/ Quote:
The vodka recipe was found by at least Sept1999: - https://groups.google.com/g/alt.game...m/_Fqg2-CfmY0J Quote:
Halfling Stouter in June2000: - https://web.archive.org/web/20000709....com/news.html Quote:
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This Jan2000 capture of Servants of Mystery's brewing recipes and this Mar2000 capture of EQTraders' brewing recipes match the above timeline. Brandy, Halfling Stouters, and Halas Heaters are not yet listed. Proposed Changes - Flag Thadres Thyme for July1999 if necessary - Adjust 'The Vengeful Musicians' quest to award Garsen's additional brewing books - Flag the bolded drinks above + Vodka combines for July1999 - Flag Halfling Stouter combine for June2000 - Flag Brandy and Halas Heater combines for Sept2000 | ||||||||||||||||
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![]() Pending update:
-Thadres Thyme will not spawn until Jul1999. -Added missing items to reward array. -vengeful npc hitpoints already correct. ? For the recipe era restrictions, I noticed Bog Juice is on the list. As it is needed for Soulfire, does this indicate Soulfire was not able to be completed prior to Jul1999? | ||
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![]() A newsgroup post captured a quest entry for Zimel's Blades/Soulfire prior to July 1999:
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- https://web.archive.org/web/20000107...pdate_0799.htm Quote:
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This post suggests it was undiscovered: - https://dbsanfte.github.io/eq-archiv...tml/13823.html Quote:
- https://groups.google.com/g/alt.game...m/Bh0WdETKuasJ Quote:
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Last edited by Passenger; 01-18-2025 at 04:59 PM..
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![]() Fixed, pending update
Era restricted the bolded recipes except for bog juice. | ||
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The evidence actually clearly says there were recipes in game that people just hadn't discovered yet; this is what developer Matt Yaney who leaked the Bog Juice recipe wrote: Quote:
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![]() If they were indeed in from day 1 and only discoverable through trial and error it's just a judgement call. Not fair using current knowledge imo.
You can recreate this by implementing new recipes for those drinks on every refresh server, but then people scream not classic. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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![]() I had been looking into this a little more, as Matt Yaney's post stood out to me as well. It turns out the books did include other pre-existing recipes.
- Ale - Ol' Tujim's Fierce Brew These two recipes weren't undiscovered, but they were undocumented in-game until Thadres Thyme's quest was added. This brewing guide includes both and predates the July 1999 patch. A few more recipes appear to have been in-game but undiscovered, as with bog juice. - Gnomish Spirits - Gypsy Wine - Red Wine - White Wine - Fish Wine - https://web.archive.org/web/20020821...&pg=1&sortby=1 Quote:
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As for the rest of the recipes listed in the books, I can't be sure. I didn't see mention of them prior to the July patch, but that doesn't mean they weren't craftable in-game. It may be best to unflag them all unless/until more definitive evidence is found. | |||||||||
Last edited by Passenger; Yesterday at 06:14 PM..
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