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Old 01-17-2025, 03:46 AM
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Tash is unresistable, isn't it? If your magic based mezzes and stuns are getting resisted every time, how are you killing her with magic based nukes? Why are they not getting resisted every time? How many times do you cast mez before you give up and start nuking?

Don't bother with root. Don't bother with stun. Don't even bother with tash. Just cast mez until it lands.
You're right about Tash (I wasn't sure). It's been weeks since I've logged into P99 (I haven't quit, I'm just really busy). I'm not saying Cyndreela is unkillable BTW. Like the last time I camped her, I killed her like clockwork for a few hours (I can't remember how long), and the exp was good, the loot was pretty decent too. But then suddenly the random badass Cyndreela spawned. And there's no warning that she's going to be tougher than normal -- she just is. Again, I almost always kill her, but then die to the DoTs she stacked on me while I was trying to do so.

It becomes less feasible for me to try and mez her because then I have to give up my pet, which means I now have to worry about the low level dry bones skeletons punching me every 2 seconds, and honestly, the pet is a huge safety buffer when fighting her anyways.

I think people are misinterpreting this as me saying Cyndreela is really hard to kill or that I can't figure it out. In actuality most of the time I still kill her easy, and then get solo'd by DoTs long after she is dead. Which you know, Shaman and Necro aren't going to have this issue since they can heal, cure disease/poison (IDK if Necro can cure both, but they do have DMF and lifetaps on low level dry bones if needed). I think most classes like Wizard, Enc, and Magician are always going to have a much harder time killing her because it pretty much only takes one resist for things to go south.

But yeah, I basically end up losing the exp I get from her because even if you only die once every 2 hours, at 51+, the exp is so slow that you basically have less exp than before you started. This isn't the first character I've had this issue on either. I actually did think about how I could stack more HP gear on my ENC to try and make it a little safer. Right now I'm using a lot of really cheap charisma gear since he's not a twink, so my HP are pretty low, but I'm not even using Charm for that camp, so I guess most of my gear is useless in that situation.

I'm not a total noob enchanter either. I actually do play the character for the challenge. I've spent a lot of time in Lower Guk just learning all the camps. It took me hours to kill Froglok King the first time. But I wanted to know how to do all of this stuff so when the next P99 server launches, I can be that Enchanter who I used to envy as a Cleric who couldn't find a group, but saw Enchanters just wandering around the zone collecting epic loot by themselves.

I've never tried Efreeti though. Just getting to Efreeti alive is terrifying. Much less trying to kill it without dying. But meanwhile I have friends on Green who were able to do it with relative ease, so I guess it's just a matter of learning the routes and strats.
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Old 01-17-2025, 07:09 AM
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Get a mage focus item so you can reclaim mana for pet and recast it later?
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Old 01-17-2025, 07:09 AM
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Get a mage focus item so you can reclaim mana for pet and recast it later?
Also, cap ur bandaging and get some kind of heal pots.
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Old 01-17-2025, 07:55 AM
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Also, cap ur bandaging and get some kind of heal pots.
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Old 01-18-2025, 02:03 AM
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It becomes less feasible for me to try and mez her because then I have to give up my pet
You lose your pet when you cast mez? I don't understand. I'm pretty sure there's no reason why you should have to give up your pet to cast mez.

The suggestion you are getting from multiple people now is that you need more interrupts more often. More interrupts, less dots. Less dots, less deaths. You get that with low level mez. cd288 suggested the same thing a few posts up.

Based on what you are saying, it does not sound like Cyndreela should be considered unusually difficult for a lone higher level necromancer, even when she gets a lucky string of resists once every twenty spawns, which sounds like the only thing that is happening. I don't see why a Mage would have an especially hard time with her, since the pet would be taking the dots. Maybe a Wizard would have a harder time.

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Enchanters just wandering around the zone collecting epic loot by themselves
It's all an illusion. Especially when Enchanters are involved.

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It's been weeks since I've logged into P99 (I haven't quit, I'm just really busy).
The strange thing about this game is that the winning move is not to play. Sounds like someone is watching out for you, if you ask me.
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Old 01-20-2025, 12:27 AM
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You lose your pet when you cast mez? I don't understand. I'm pretty sure there's no reason why you should have to give up your pet to cast mez.

The suggestion you are getting from multiple people now is that you need more interrupts more often. More interrupts, less dots. Less dots, less deaths. You get that with low level mez. cd288 suggested the same thing a few posts up.

Based on what you are saying, it does not sound like Cyndreela should be considered unusually difficult for a lone higher level necromancer, even when she gets a lucky string of resists once every twenty spawns, which sounds like the only thing that is happening. I don't see why a Mage would have an especially hard time with her, since the pet would be taking the dots. Maybe a Wizard would have a harder time.


It's all an illusion. Especially when Enchanters are involved.


The strange thing about this game is that the winning move is not to play. Sounds like someone is watching out for you, if you ask me.
In hind sight knowing how good Magician pets are and the fact that they have control over, Magician probably would wreck her. The way I usually kill her is Discordant Mind. Clicky. Anarchy. Clicky. Discordant Mind. Dead. I'm pretty sure both of those nukes are actually interrupts, but when they get resisted that obviously doesn't matter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I'm not entirely sure that an emergency Color Skew or Whirl Til You Hurl will land any easier or with real impact at that point.

I think if I was really interested in doing this camp then investing in HP gear would make a huge difference (my characters aren't twinks). But there is other things I can do where I was getting better exp than this. The last time I died I actually swung over to Grobb and started killing guards and was having a better time. I think the main appeal of Cyndreela at first glance was that they seemed like an AFK friendly camp, which would have been a nice break since chain CC'ing for groups in KC was fatiguing me pretty badly.

But yeah I looked at the HP difference of Necro of similar level and it's pretty huge:

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And yes my Enc is missing a range slot and I think some of his pieces are actually cloth armor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] but gear hasn't been a huge issue for me so far, like this would have been considered pretty decent gear when P99 Green first launched? That's kind of what I tell myself because I remember when Green first launched watching Enchanters in LGUK do some crazy stuff and I don't even think their gear was this good. But against Cyndreela I do think having HP stuff would make a bigger diff.
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Old 01-22-2025, 01:23 PM
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The Ench nukes have a stun component yes, but that's not reliable as a strategy to prevent her casting as the have long cast times. So the strategy in my opinion should be: Mez, then tash, then root (if needed, not sure if she ever approaches to melee?), then nuke, then low lvl mez to prevent any casting, then nuke, then low level mez to prevent casting, etc.

With obviously using a GCD clicky in between each so you can immediately low lvl mez her before she casts. If she resists, I think you could have multiple other low level mezzes on your bar as well as your color stun as backups right? Not going to guarantee that it solves the streaky RNG situation, but it's worth a shot. If you're getting streaky RNG and you think it's gonna go bad, you can also try to root her and just run out of line of sight into the passageway and camp the aggro and try again.
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Old 01-24-2025, 05:41 PM
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Apologies for not listening to you earlier, and consequently not understanding why you would have to get rid of your pet. Yes, it could easily break mez. Yes, that does mean you should probably not even summon it.

That necro you posted would still die to three dots (if they didn't cast lifetap). You could spend tens of thousands of pp and still get two bad resists and die to three dots because you wanted to nuke a mob that was dotting you instead of a mob that you mezzed. Very sporting of you, but you see the consequences.

According to my calculations, you probably die to a single resist most of the time. Consider rerolling wizard, or possibly not logging in for a while. EQ is brutal, no matter how you approach it. You are trying to kill people, and they are going to kill you for it. If you don't want to play that game, then don't play it. It's better not to, if you can avoid it. That's my real recommendation.
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