Miscellaneous: Nerf Bowquest 99

[Tigerstyle Wutangfist]

Wow hit a treasure trove.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...ery#post335611

This post implies that on live in 2002 (Wed Jan 23 05:38:32 2002) that there was no damage bonus on bows.

Hmmm you're right. Judging by the rest of the log he's using both Primal Weapons and a Primal Bow, which is 33 damage. No bow seems to list a damage bonus like weapons do, and nor do Arrows. With that said he's hitting as low as 8 and it's counting as double damage. o.O

2 primal weapons and a primal bow the quote says. 1h bonus is flat 11 so if minimum was 4 + dbl dmg to 8; there is no way a bonus was applied in all likelihood.

[Baugi]

Originally Posted by Tigerstyle Wutangfist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This post implies that on live in 2002 (Wed Jan 23 05:38:32 2002) that there was no damage bonus on bows.

A minimum damage of 8 suggests a damage bonus of 6 or 3 depending on how you calculate the double damage, but you're right that it's inconsistent with just adding the mainhand damage bonus.

[Jimjam]

Hit could have been more and target had rune which wad 8 damage less than the true damage of the hit.

[Jimjam]

Ignoring above, min hit is (DI+arrow Dmg)x2,

In this case, ((33/20 rounded down, or rounded up to 1 if <1) + 3)x2 = 1+3 + 1+3 = 8

[Tigerstyle Wutangfist]

I did consider the Rune/Dmg absorb aspect, but 3 hitsfor 8 in 1min 10 sec seems too coincidental - also I do not immediately recall a fight in Luclin or prior (even Ring of Fire) where mobs chain rune themselves.

In the post linked in the linked post - he says he used " 14dmg arrows."

There are also some logs of trueshot, where his lowest recurrent hit is 32 which is 4X the 8 which i thought was interesting.

@jimjam I was not familiar with the bow dmg calc, can you outline the math/variables you posted above?

[Jimjam]

Honestly I pulled that model out of my butt. I know eq likes d20s, i figured maybe he was mistaken on the arrows he used and was using summoned ones (3dmg).

[Twainz]

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[Sat Feb 13 14:42:55 2021] You hit Baugi for 149 points of damage.
[Sat Feb 13 14:42:56 2021] Faceoff hits Baugi for 111 points of damage.
[Sat Feb 13 14:42:57 2021] Thunderdorne Scores a critical hit!(37)
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[Sat Feb 13 14:43:03 2021] You hit Faceoff for 129 points of damage.
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[Sat Feb 13 14:43:08 2021] You hit Baugi for 123 points of damage.
[Sat Feb 13 14:43:08 2021] Your target is too close to use a ranged weapon!!
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[Sat Feb 13 14:43:10 2021] YOU are tormented!
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[Sat Feb 13 14:43:10 2021] YOU are tormented!
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[Sat Feb 13 14:43:11 2021] Faceoff was tormented.
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[Sat Feb 13 14:43:11 2021] Baugi has been slain by Faceoff!
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[Sat Feb 13 14:43:19 2021] You hit Melodie for 138 points of damage.
[Sat Feb 13 14:43:30 2021] You hit Melodie for 115 points of damage.
[Sat Feb 13 14:43:32 2021] You hit Melodie for 130 points of damage.
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[Sat Feb 13 14:43:35 2021] You hit Melodie for 142 points of damage.
[Sat Feb 13 14:43:37 2021] You hit Melodie for 135 points of damage.
[Sat Feb 13 14:43:38 2021] Melodie lets loose a piercing blast.
[Sat Feb 13 14:43:38 2021] You hit Melodie for 115 points of damage.
[Sat Feb 13 14:43:40 2021] You hit Melodie for 139 points of damage.
[Sat Feb 13 14:43:41 2021] Melodie's song ends abruptly.
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[Sat Feb 13 14:43:55 2021] You hit Melodie for 128 points of damage.
[Sat Feb 13 14:43:57 2021] You hit Melodie for 187 points of damage.
[Sat Feb 13 14:43:59 2021] You try to hit Melodie, but miss!
[Sat Feb 13 14:44:02 2021] You hit Melodie for 114 points of damage.
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[Sat Feb 13 14:44:04 2021] You hit Melodie for 111 points of damage.
[Sat Feb 13 14:44:05 2021] You hit Melodie for 174 points of damage.
[Sat Feb 13 14:44:06 2021] Faceoff tries to hit YOU, but misses!
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[Sat Feb 13 14:44:06 2021] You hit Melodie for 111 points of damage.
[Sat Feb 13 14:44:09 2021] Faceoff tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Sat Feb 13 14:44:09 2021] You hit Melodie for 131 points of damage.
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[Sat Feb 13 14:44:26 2021] The grim aura fades.
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[Sat Feb 13 14:44:39 2021] You hit Bogey for 117 points of damage.
[Sat Feb 13 14:44:41 2021] You hit Bogey for 111 points of damage.
[Sat Feb 13 14:44:41 2021] The pox has run its course.
[Sat Feb 13 14:44:43 2021] You hit Bogey for 148 points of damage.
[Sat Feb 13 14:44:44 2021] You hit Bogey for 202 points of damage.
[Sat Feb 13 14:44:46 2021] You hit Bogey for 153 points of damage.
[Sat Feb 13 14:44:47 2021] You hit Bogey for 161 points of damage.
[Sat Feb 13 14:44:48 2021] Faceoff hits Bogey for 111 points of damage.
[Sat Feb 13 14:44:49 2021] You hit Bogey for 160 points of damage.
[Sat Feb 13 14:44:50 2021] You hit Bogey for 151 points of damage.
[Sat Feb 13 14:44:52 2021] You hit Bogey for 111 points of damage.
[Sat Feb 13 14:44:53 2021] You hit Bogey for 184 points of damage.
[Sat Feb 13 14:44:55 2021] You hit Bogey for 121 points of damage.
[Sat Feb 13 14:44:55 2021] Faceoff tries to hit Bogey, but misses!
[Sat Feb 13 14:44:56 2021] Faceoff tries to hit Bogey, but misses!
[Sat Feb 13 14:44:56 2021] You try to hit Bogey, but miss!
[Sat Feb 13 14:44:57 2021] Bogey writhes in the grip of agony.
[Sat Feb 13 14:44:57 2021] Bogey has been slain by Bogey!
[Sat Feb 13 14:44:57 2021] Bogey's casting is interrupted!

[Twainz]

25 seconds = 2515 damage to a Troll SK from a bow. Imagine if he was a clothie.

[demokatt]

Why is there no wiki selling record of weighted axe? Or is it nodrop?

[Gustoo]

Its usually vendor garbage and I don't think anyone uses it on blue at all.

Only used on PVP and there is no economy on red, so you gotta go kill giants and get one yourself.