Should Ramal return to the server?

[cd288]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And here comes CD288 with the revisionist history to protect the racist guild.

Look, anyone with any brains at all understood the "EQ Blackface" guild was racist the moment it was announced (especially given who was behind it). The only question was how long it would be before even the P99 staff (who I tend to think are extremely libertarian, as evidenced by how long they left all sorts of problematic speech on these forums) would finally be pushed too far.

But just in case someone actually believes CD, I invite them to read the history for themselves: https://project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=378401.

You can argue whatever you want on your opinion that DMO is racist. Just saying that's not what caused them to be disbanded. They were disbanded for fucking around with the staff during some disputes in the UN.

[cd288]

This is Nirgon's last post in the DMO guild thread here on the forums that shows a little bit of what I'm referring to

https://project1999.com/forums/showt...334537&page=40

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And here comes CD288 with the revisionist history to protect the racist guild.

Look, anyone with any brains at all understood the "EQ Blackface" guild was racist the moment it was announced (especially given who was behind it). The only question was how long it would be before even the P99 staff (who I tend to think are extremely libertarian, as evidenced by how long they left all sorts of problematic speech on these forums) would finally be pushed too far.

But just in case someone actually believes CD, I invite them to read the history for themselves: https://project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=378401.

are you calling level up larry racist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[loramin]

Look, I don't know what the straw that broke the camel's back was, nor do I care.

But if you think the staff just up and banned the guild leader, and disbanded the guild, because of one fight with staff (when there are plenty of other guilds which also fought with staff ... and are still around) ... and that it had nothing whatsoever to do with everything in that thread I linked ... well, you keep doing you.

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

are you calling level up larry racist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe? I don't even know the guy.

But look, I'm not setting the bar at "put on sheets and assaulted minorities"; I'm happily willing to condemn anyone wh joined DMO and stayed in longer than a week or two.

If you see your fellow guildmates making offensive racist jokes, not just in guild speak but in their very character names, and everyone is cool with that (ie. they're not being kicked out) ... and you're like "this is a good group of folks to play with" ... then yes, on some level I do think you're racist.

[quido]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, that's why they were disbanded by the staff ... for harmless role-playing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The official story was actually bullshit. We didn't have a racism problem - only such incident was Brother Ramal accidentally using the Ja-word in ignorance of its offensiveness. He apologized and everyone moved on.

A particular GM got aggrieved that our crew started smashing some blue content and that some Brothers stood in defense of our viewpoint. No good rabblerousers!

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Say what you want about a couple of the members of DMO but I never experienced racist interactions with basically all of them. The vast majority were extremely helpful in game and the Erudite superiority roleplay was really funny and helped to make the EQ experience we've all done a thousand times not as stale.

Thanks for your input. This is really what it was all about for us. As green's first guild, and being tied for first place on the server, the essence of superiority we demonstrated didn't really take much effort. But the other Erudite roleplay elements and lore were immensely fun to explore and share with the community. I still sometimes go and read through our old Discord channels to experience this joy again. If everyone here was worthy of access to The Great Tome of Odus and its many chapters, I would share its details, but sadly there is a preponderance of Antonican heathens in these parts.

[Ekco]

>calls a black everquest player Racist. ""Maybe""

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[shovelquest]

Thank god you are here to disparage Level up Larry's good name to protect (him) from racism.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thank god you are here to disparage Level up Larry's good name to protect (him) from racism.

Again, I don't even know (or care really) who this Larry guy is. I heard he had some popular Youtube videos, but I see nothing preventing someone from simultaneously being an entertaining Youtube video maker and a bit racist.

If you're in such a hurry to defend him, just go read that thread. Read even a quarter of it (it's a long thread). Then come back and tell me how not racist DMO was.

[quido]

Blackface claims are absurd and have no basis in fact.

We knew that dumb bitches would sometimes get immediately rustled by a male-only Erudite-only guild due to such ignorant assumptions. This is part of what fueled our intense immersion into all Eruditious. We upheld the traditions of Erud and the rules of the server better than anyone. We knew the staff and the players with three-digit base INT would see this and that it was fully about being an Erudite, and they did. Literally nothing changed with regard to this leading up to our disbanding - what changed is a rageaholic former GM got mad for being wrong and argued with and pushed for it with the staff. It's pretty gross actually.

I made a video about Master Jack's early adventures in Norrath about the time I stopped playing green mostly. I'd never made an actual edited video before - just some simple clips - and learned how so I could share Jack's adventures with everyone. This sort of stuff is what made DMO a tight crew and the most fun Everquest experience I ever had. It's also proof that Master Jack was the server-first Erudite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxi3b2Pmo_A

[shovelquest]

You don't even know or care who this guy you're insulting publicly behind his back in the worst possible way with made up accusations is?