Ok I’m officially ready for a new PVP server

[DeliciousHalflings]

Originally Posted by Bockscar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, red had like 500 players at the start, and it was clear that there was quite a bit of interest in a PvP server. It's just that there is almost no way to stop the VZTZ types from chasing players away because their way of life is so incompatible with anyone who has a relatively normal personality. Preventing it would take such a huge effort that it's just an unrealistic expectation. You'd need like ten GMs devoted to that server.

Big false. People played because it was new and shiny (see 'MMO population trends within 6 weeks of new content release compared to 12/15/18 week periods'). People stopped playing because EQ PvP sucks more than a phase 4 Marvel movie.

[Trexller]

Classic EQ PVP needs to be it's own project. it's basically a different game.

and you all know i'm right.

[Old_PVP]

Originally Posted by Fammaden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

10% of blue and green's player base would be like 200 people or less.

I'm sure they can't wait to develop, organize, and staff a third server so that a couple hundred four-chan rejects who can't stop hurling slurs in global /ooc can get a fresh start on being the first max level griefers to drive off all the other players. Sounds like a great use of staff resources.

Not everyone is online at the same time. There are usually ~2000 total people playing P99 between Blue, Green & Red during prime time hours. However, you and I both know that not everyone is playing right now, putting the real population of actual people that play P99 servers at probably double that figure. Honestly, the 300 - 500 estimate of active players for Red is probably a lowball estimate. Active players... not concurrently active players. Also you must factor in that we are currently only talking about Project99 population and haven't even taken into consideration the wider EQEmu community or gamers from different games entirely. "if a PVP server were to be done correctly from the start" which is what I said, then we would most likely see an even higher estimate for those population numbers, as the amount of people that have been wanting a good quality EverQuest PVP server isn't only limited to the Project99 community.

But ok, go ahead and host the exact same PVE bluebie server...again... for the 3rd time... and deal with the exact same camp disputes from slightly older & crankier middle aged man-children-whistleblowing-lawyerquesters.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by DeliciousHalflings [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People stopped playing because EQ PvP sucks more than a phase 4 Marvel movie.

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[Swish]

Originally Posted by Old_PVP [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But ok, go ahead and host the exact same PVE bluebie server...again... for the 3rd time... and deal with the exact same camp disputes from slightly older & crankier middle aged man-children-whistleblowing-lawyerquesters.

I'll play whatever's new, ngl.

However...blue raiding politics is all kinds of bad.

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[pink grapefruit]

I think my class for red 2.0 will be bard. It's time to go tryhard EQ again when perhaps our last chance for EQ pvp happens!

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Classic EQ PVP needs to be it's own project. it's basically a different game

gonna drill this over and over until someone gets it

you guys don't need like an Unreal engine dev team, alot of the work is already done

it's statistically probable (drake equation works here) that some of you die-hard red fans are super-nerds that could sort through all the public code and make something that works which you can tune and balance to make EQ PVP playable.

DOOOO IIITTTT

[DeliciousHalflings]

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Black Panther 2 is one of the worst, most pandering pieces of capitalistic, exploitative, money grabbing bullshit trying to be passed off as cinema I've ever seen. They basically took scenes from other MCU movies and made them black. And using a man's cancer as a fucking plot point? FUCK DISNEY. That movie was dogshit.

[DeliciousHalflings]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

gonna drill this over and over until someone gets it

you guys don't need like an Unreal engine dev team, alot of the work is already done

it's statistically probable (drake equation works here) that some of you die-hard red fans are super-nerds that could sort through all the public code and make something that works which you can tune and balance to make EQ PVP playable.

DOOOO IIITTTT

No, they're legitimately too stupid to do that on their own.

[Bockscar]

Red99 had like 500ish people at first, and it wasn't until the server's problems became apparent that players started leaving in droves. Unfortunately, while some of those problems could be fixed (awful custom resist system, no enforcement of rules), some of them can't (mentally ill VZTZ population making up half the playerbase).