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Old 09-11-2023, 07:01 AM
mgolinel mgolinel is offline
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Default About magician chain casting

According to https://wiki.project1999.com/Magician#Chain_Casting, it seems that chain casting does not work the way we could expect.

"Unfortunately, the way agro current works on P99, this strategy is not very effective. When a pet dies, all of the hate that it built up seems to be applied directly to the caster (instead of "lost"). This means that a newly summoned pet will have very little chance of peeling the mob off of the caster. This has been reported as a bug, but has yet to be acknowledged as one (as of 6/23/20)."

Any news on this point ? Is it really true ? It's very hard for me to remember how it could work in 1999 especially because I was exclusively using an earth pet during this period.
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Old 09-11-2023, 09:58 AM
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Yeah that's how it is, it's not bad outdoors if you can kite a bit until you get a root proc but really tough indoors
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Old 09-11-2023, 10:06 AM
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Not really. First taunt or root will peel it off you. I put four pets into an Ice Burrower and if it was true it would have to chase a long time.

Consider packing root nets for hard stuff.
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Old 09-16-2023, 02:55 AM
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Not really. First taunt or root will peel it off you. I put four pets into an Ice Burrower and if it was true it would have to chase a long time.

Consider packing root nets for hard stuff.
The pet can only taunt a mob if it's below the pet's level. The Mage pet levels max out at 48 for the Standard pets and 49 for the epic. Any Mob above that the pet will not be able to taunt. Also with the level variance for summoning not every pet will be able to taunt that same mob. Additionally the higher the level of the NPC, the less likely the earth pet's root will land.
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Old 09-16-2023, 03:56 AM
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The pet can only taunt a mob if it's below the pet's level. The Mage pet levels max out at 48 for the Standard pets and 49 for the epic. Any Mob above that the pet will not be able to taunt. Also with the level variance for summoning not every pet will be able to taunt that same mob. Additionally the higher the level of the NPC, the less likely the earth pet's root will land.
Killing stuff above level 48 is tricky? Further evidence the mage is a melee.
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Old 09-16-2023, 08:46 AM
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The pet can only taunt a mob if it's below the pet's level. The Mage pet levels max out at 48 for the Standard pets and 49 for the epic. Any Mob above that the pet will not be able to taunt. Also with the level variance for summoning not every pet will be able to taunt that same mob. Additionally the higher the level of the NPC, the less likely the earth pet's root will land.
The earth pet can root Ulump. Also I know that about taunt but as mentioned I’ve put four earth pets into an ice burrower and it jumped on the pet almost immediately each time. Hence the “all aggro transfers to the PC” is BS.

The toughest thing Ive killed with my mage is just an exp mob (prob a dozen times) but level 50. Even racing to kill with spells the earth kept it pretty locked down:

https://wiki.project1999.com/Svunsa

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Killing stuff above level 48 is tricky? Further evidence the mage is a melee.
Math checks out
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Old 09-16-2023, 08:35 PM
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"The earth pet can root Ulump. Also I know that about taunt but as mentioned I’ve put four earth pets into an ice burrower and it jumped on the pet almost immediately each time. Hence the “all aggro transfers to the PC” is BS."

You did that recently? Have you tried without the earth pet? I can guarantee the hate does transfer each time. I'll post a video for evidence when I have time.
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Old 09-17-2023, 10:05 AM
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The earth pet can root Ulump. Also I know that about taunt but as mentioned I’ve put four earth pets into an ice burrower and it jumped on the pet almost immediately each time. Hence the “all aggro transfers to the PC” is BS.

The toughest thing Ive killed with my mage is just an exp mob (prob a dozen times) but level 50. Even racing to kill with spells the earth kept it pretty locked down:

https://wiki.project1999.com/Svunsa



Math checks out
You don't need to chain pet Svunsa.
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Old 09-17-2023, 11:13 AM
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You don't need to chain pet Svunsa.
I didn’t say that. It was commenting on being able to taunt off a level 50.

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"The earth pet can root Ulump. Also I know that about taunt but as mentioned I’ve put four earth pets into an ice burrower and it jumped on the pet almost immediately each time. Hence the “all aggro transfers to the PC” is BS."

You did that recently? Have you tried without the earth pet? I can guarantee the hate does transfer each time. I'll post a video for evidence when I have time.
I don’t know, less than a year ago when I was bored. Feel free, just my observation. All these calls for “evidence” feels very elf court. Log in, try it, see what happens.
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Old 09-11-2023, 02:54 PM
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It can be a struggle like others have said, use the earth pet for root if it's serious. This is also another reason hit points are an important stat for Mages.
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