Re-Popularize The Hole

[Videri]

I miss the days when there were pickup groups all day every day in The Hole.

It seems like a lot of people bailed on The Hole when it got slightly nerfed, but...did you folks know the ZEM is still the best in the game for the 50-59 range besides Permafrost??

Karnor's Castle is more popular and easier to travel around, but boy is the exp there...incremental at best. If we had multiple groups going in The Hole all the time, it would be easier to manage! Imagine if there were always porters around to port people, LFG people around to group with, and clerics around to rez the dead.

I'm having a really nice Hole group right now!

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So if you like The Hole, post here and help make it popular again!

[shovelquest]

The hole is a great zone, one of those classic ones that unless you go out of your way to really explore it, you will miss it.

[Gloomlord]

Originally Posted by Videri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I miss the days when there were pickup groups all day every day in The Hole.

It seems like a lot of people bailed on The Hole when it got slightly nerfed, but...did you folks know the ZEM is still the best in the game for the 50-59 range besides Permafrost??

Karnor's Castle is more popular and easier to travel around, but boy is the exp there...incremental at best. If we had multiple groups going in The Hole all the time, it would be easier to manage! Imagine if there were always porters around to port people, LFG people around to group with, and clerics around to rez the dead.

I'm having a really nice Hole group right now!

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So if you like The Hole, post here and help make it popular again!

People are lazy, as I've said before. Some perfectly good dungeons in this game, and everyone just wants to go to the most idiot-proof.

[Salaryman]

RED99

Well well, colour me suprised, pve n00bs are risk averse and wont go to the best dungo ever designed because they might get "stuck", and thats on a server with instant click teleport pots and RMT.

In RED99 the Hole is frequently ventured because we are Brave and have Quests to do there.

Like the Quest I did to get my EPICS SwiftWind and EarthCaller

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[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People are lazy, as I've said before. Some perfectly good dungeons in this game, and everyone just wants to go to the most idiot-proof.

True except for karnor where I find the zone quite hostile if you're level appropriate.

It is sad because sometimes it is fun to group but that leaves some gems open to soloers or duos/trios. The flipside is if you're a rogue or warrior you can't just park in the hole and hope there's a group that comes once every blue moon. People will go where they know the action is and I can't fault them for that.

[Jimjam]

Further to the point of Hole especially causing issues for war/rog, the great thing about Karnors is that there are easy single low blue / high xp green single pulls outside the zone (in DL against the castle walls) that the weaker solo classes (war, maybe rogue) can try to flex their muscles on when a group is unavailable.

Frequently high level druids and enchanters, sometimes shamans too, drop into karnors to donate buffs, making soloing in kc/dl even more safe/feasible. Hole doesn’t get that treatment either.

[Goregasmic]

Yeah and now that I think about it, places like velks/karnor often have accessible clerics so that's nice if you FAFO'ed. I did a couple levels in HS and I had a bunch of corpses expire, it makes you think twice before trying something risky.

That and now that some zones are empty, if you get a seb disco group and no one is doing NG, good luck getting there from ent. With Lguk being mostly empty you aren't getting anywhere either compared to live back when every camp was taken and you could pretty much move around freely. I guess that's why COM is popular and Karnor's/velks too. Easy to get to the main camps.

[Videri]

Right, so part of the point of this thread is to popularize it so that there will be pickup groups and parked-out clerics and what not! I actually parked one there last night.

"People will go where they know the action is..." but we are people!

[shovelquest]

Me: im gonna go to the hole

The hole: Key?

Me:

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[CrazyPro]

real ones level in DN