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Old 09-04-2024, 09:33 PM
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Default BIS Wizard. Is it worth it?

For those of you who have done this, or theorycrafters. Is it worth equipping a wizard with BIS gear? Obviously a larger mana pool means more Velious Giant, and Dragon nukes.

I enjoy raiding on a wiz, but I'm an altoholic and DKP is always in short supply. It's either spend it on the Wizard or one of the other classes I play. The others being Ranger, SK, Necro and shaman respectively.
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Old 09-04-2024, 09:37 PM
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i just finished twinking and lvling my wiz to 60, had hot gear, all 3 city leader heads, full vp set (crown of rile, robe, hosh staff, cloak, ear) etc. is it worth it? ehh prob made minimal impact but did make things easier. we are here for infinite time why not gear everything?
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Old 09-04-2024, 10:09 PM
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The answer is absolutely not.

Acquiring more gear on a wizard will enable you to do almost nothing you couldn't do with ec gear

Atleast when you get bis gear on an enc or necro, you're improving your safety and QoL while soloing or becoming more tanky where you can actually tap tank or rune tank stuff that would slap you around before.

Or if you're a monk/tank you become much more capable of holding your own solo or low man. Geared knights are great for doing things like fungi king or drusella.

A bis wizard still doesn't gain any of these benefit even with proportionally better gear.

Their primary solo style doesn't involve getting hit or even really risking getting hit and your mana pool with likely never be big enough to really kill anything solo that matters. You won't fit into any low man groups besides aoeing with bards but there's basically no reason to do that anywhere after you're 60.

Consider what the gear you're buying will enable you to do that you couldn't do without it.

If casting 2 extra nukes per fight is worth it to you then by all means go ahead but don't say no one warned you.
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Old 09-05-2024, 01:34 AM
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Depends on your goals.

BIS-gearing your wizard will make you more tanky and that could maybe allow you to take on some pulls or fights in dungeons that’d otherwise likely kill you. You stil fold to most summononing mobs regardless. More mana means less when mob HP pools are so huge and you have VP robe.

Resists are nice, for raiding. Together with HP resists are the biggest thing but you can get sufficient stats without expensive raid loot. An extra dragonbane or three won’t make or break raid encounters either.

But say you gear a shaman or Enchanter instead with BIS gear. Now you can solo farm plat better, but for what do you need it?

My main beef with Wiz is that you don’t really get groups. Doesn’t matter what gear, people don’t care. For that stuff people are happy to have a cleric or enchanter BIS or crap geared.
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Old 09-05-2024, 10:31 AM
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save your dkp for your melees and enchanter / shaman

-former altoholic / bargain dkp enjoyer
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Old 09-05-2024, 10:32 AM
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I'd say these are all good points- A wizard's strategy in killing is never a need of more HP's. And a bigger mana pool only matters if you have full mana. And if you're in a group, the bigger mana pool just doesn't matter. Even then, 2 or 3 extra nukes isn't going to allow you to do anything you already couldn't do. The only benefit the mana pool has, is to take down 1 specific mob, when you're able to have full mana, and can dump it all on something.. And i'm just not sure it makes enough of a difference to blow all your resources on to obtain said gear.
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Old 09-05-2024, 11:25 AM
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Geared wizards used to be able to quad kite DN before they summoned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngNvVoheQw0
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Old 09-05-2024, 02:22 PM
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Full bis is best spent on a FD class imo. Having that get out of jail free card allows you to push the boundaries in some dangerous zones. A lot of people like to bis their sk for that reason. You can pop into the planes and kill shit. Bis necros are also really powerful. Monks probably scale the best in all elements of the game but it wasnt on your list.
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Old 09-06-2024, 10:02 AM
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imagine being in the position where you can no-life RA and you dont know what to spend your diaper kill points on
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Old 09-06-2024, 10:48 AM
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imagine being in the position where you can no-life RA and you dont know what to spend your diaper kill points on
As if it even really matters what you pick either!
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