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Old 07-16-2023, 10:18 AM
Zuranthium Zuranthium is offline
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Mez only wins if the enc is smashing it waiting for the bard to come in range.

However, what the enc doesn't know is the bard hits DA song before coming in range. As soon as mez tries to land, bard clicks off DA song and now the enc has a 2.25sec recast timer on it on top of 2.5sec cast.
Why are you assuming the fight starts out of cast range. If the characters are being dropped into the middle of the arena within range to get a quick spell off before being able to kite away, then it goes like this:

Cleric > Wizard > Enchanter > Necromancer > Bard

That's the order of stun speed each class has and the winner is just going to be who locks the other person out of the fight first.
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Old 07-16-2023, 10:20 AM
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Also, enc only gets a single shot with rapture. 24 sec recast, oof.

Also Puretone disc gives you 2.8 modifier for 4 minutes. Nothing else is likely to land on a bard who comes in stacked with resist songs.

Also, nah.
I will take this duel on red if you have a naked 60 Bard. What you willing to bet?
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Old 07-16-2023, 11:54 AM
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Why are you assuming the fight starts out of cast range. If the characters are being dropped into the middle of the arena within range to get a quick spell off before being able to kite away, then it goes like this:

Cleric > Wizard > Enchanter > Necromancer > Bard

That's the order of stun speed each class has and the winner is just going to be who locks the other person out of the fight first.
Nah.

I assume the fight takes place on a very serious planet designed specifically for this highly realistic scenario.

Therefore, out of casting range.
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Old 07-16-2023, 12:52 PM
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I don’t really think there’s a single class that could kill all of the other 13. Bard probably has the highest chance though. Casters can just low level DoT themselves to break Enchanter mezzes etc.

I think Necro is a good contender being able to both do damage as well as tap, and they’re one class that could handle Bards. Lifetap is virtually irresistible
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Old 07-16-2023, 12:53 PM
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When naked and starting unbuffed, invisibility also becomes relevant
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Old 07-16-2023, 01:20 PM
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Initial spell choice, GCD, and RNG all would play a part of who wins in addition to class choice.

As in both skill and luck would matter in these fights.
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Old 07-16-2023, 01:33 PM
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Don't want to overemphasize luck actually. It's probably that skill >> luck most of the time while every now and again luck > skill.
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Old 07-16-2023, 02:14 PM
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I think if a necro can get off a low lv DoT on themselves they are probably a good contender since they can lifetap for what? 500 dmg? How many HP does say a naked warrior have? 2k tops? so and enchanter probably has half that. Cleric can just chain stun though as well. It is a tough call. In the end I think the skill of the player is top priority
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Old 07-16-2023, 03:27 PM
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When naked and starting unbuffed, invisibility also becomes relevant
Won a few fights on RZ as a rogue because of this =)

Also, necro lifetap is like 330 and all spells are reduced to 66% in PvP, so like 220.
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Old 07-16-2023, 03:44 PM
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Bard DA sounds cute but if we're gonna theorycraft this battle the wizard could just yonder if stun doesn't land due to DA and the repeat the kill.

a wiz with self-buffs should survive a harmtouch too.
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