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Old 02-11-2023, 03:34 PM
Vivitron Vivitron is offline
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Bard with epic using all 3 chant dots and meleeing twisting in the 60 slow and ds as well is probably putting out like 100 dps?
tl;dr: I do get close to 100 dps against the Froglok Forager with tuna dagger + epic + bis instruments.

Froglok Forager cycle (I'd like an iksar mask) is one of the only places where I end up meleeing + loading up single target dots.

Forager conveniently seems to always have 6k hp, so a one minute kill time equals 100 dps. The other day before I saw this post I noticed I was often about 60s on most of my kills, but I was getting a jump on the damage by pulling with the 60 slow and the two Tuyen's drum dots, and my parser didn't start the timer until I was meleeing it.

So I pulled in a few today without pre-dotting for some clean tests.

First, melee only to test the Forager's hp:

Code:
6034 damage kill in 123 seconds = 49 dps
6027 damage kill in 120 seconds = 50 dps
6074 damage kill in 128 seconds = 47 dps
6047 damage kill in 117 seconds = 52 dps
6007 damage kill in 120 seconds = 50 dps
Yep, Forager has 6k.

Second, my usual Forager twist but I let it get to camp before landing a dot: 60 slow dot then a Tuyens Flame (drum dot) / Tuyens Ice (drum dot) / Denon's Bereavement (lute dot) / Selo's Cords of Cessation (lute dot) / Regen twist, tapping in prime hand instruments right as the songs land:

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62second kill = 97 dps (47 of it from melee)
Third, I tried hitting the slow dot then cycling all 6 other dots, tapping in prime hand instruments:
Code:
56seconds kill = 105 dps (46 of it from melee)
What about damage shield? I got hit a total of 27 times in the last two parses. My bigger damage shield is 23. Small sample but that puts it in the ballpark of 5 dps, so I think I'm better off dotting here.
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Old 02-11-2023, 07:32 PM
Snaggles Snaggles is offline
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Three chants (31, 31, 25 dmg/tick unmodified) = 87 per tick.
Drums of the beast 2.6 modifier = 226.20 per tick

That's 37.40 dps in chants. Foragers are like level 45 so it's easy to do high melee dps against them. 100 dps certainly seems to make sense for a top tier bard.

Like everything, context is important. What are you killing and will songs land? Otherwise though bard group attack buffs are amazing and turn even lowly melees into heroes.
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Old 02-11-2023, 07:35 PM
Ripqozko Ripqozko is offline
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Now show me a parse on a raid mob where none of that shit works, let me see that 100. Hope that helps.
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Old 02-12-2023, 05:50 PM
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Now show me a parse on a raid mob where none of that shit works, let me see that 100. Hope that helps.
Yep, not 100. I meleed some of the focusers last time my guild cleared PoG. My best showing was 44 melee dps. I don't have any worthwhile parses from raid bosses yet with my current weapon setup, but I'm hoping to break 40 when everything goes well.

Like the op sometimes I like to hit things on my bard anyway, and am curious how far it can be pushed.
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