Epic for Ninik!

[PureLo]

excerpts

IB will be raid suspended for the next 2 weeks for raid interference that was perpetuated by your guild leadership. Be thankful no one's account is banned. Your raid suspension will end at 12:00am EST March 3rd. You may not engage ANY raid targets such as "boss mobs" (including maestro, inny, cazic and draco) in fear and hate., vox and naggy, talendor, gorenaire, sev, trak, and all 6 dragons in VP.

The above was later modified to ONE week, this i know... (continue)

You will both return to the game next Saturday without fear that I will be taking actions against your guilds as a whole for previous behavior.

That leads to what is currently being talked about between others in another thread and now also being used from myself to you... (continue)

However at this point unfortunately I felt a harsh wakeup call was the only way to achieve a change in behavior.

So those are your words NOT mine Amelinda... and from the looks of it you can't honestly sit there and tell me IB's past behavior wasn't similar to this current instance. You also can't tell me that with their past knowledge and mobilization that they had NO IDEA whatsoever that Draco was indeed IN WINDOW. Therefore, it is quite obvious they were willing to take that calculated risk of being there when he did spawn to begin with.... you say oh well wrong place wrong time, How many zones are there across norrath? How many mobs were up according to multiple sources (not enough to warrant a gear clear)? Correct me if i'm wrong, but Draco only roams a small segment of the zone... so therefore his ENGAGEMENT can easily be avoided while killing the mobs that they had on their "supposed" train.

So according to YOUR OWN words they should be treated and judged on their past behavior and with a harsh punishment. Regardless if it was "only 8 people" as Gwence said as well as many of us know, it is doable to kill draco with 8 60's and the definition of engagement obviously took place removing him from his roaming due to aggro getting him to the zone in point. The question is will you now live up to your word and punish the guild as a whole or sit back and allow them to take advantage of your "niceness".

[Kole1]

maybe it can be killed with 8 60's.I was one of the people there, and we did not have 8 60's. Nor did we have any intention to kill him.

we had 2 lv 60 clerics, 2 rangers, (lv 60 and 51?), a lv 55 enc, a lv 60 wizard, and some naggy/vox alts including a shaman and a druid around lv 50-52.

Nothing in the zone was up but glare lords, samhains, and random shit. We were killing them, but mostly having fun.

BDA had a tracker in zone. Ambrotos didn't have such a bad perspective. The tracker was talking to us in /ooc. He knew we were there. He had to have known we were killing the things. He had to have known mobs were dropping off track if he was doing even a half ass job of tracking.

Mobs were all over the gy/WW area. We were messing around with a charmed toad. There are a variety of ways draco coulda chain aggro'd given what we were doing. But we got out of the zone as fast as we possibly could....the 2 clerics DA and gated instantly. We couldnt have wiped any faster.

TL;DR. You had a tracker in zone, knew people were messing around in zone, zoned in, had bad luck and want Amelinda to avenge a tragic wipe.

[PureLo]

sounds like a sufficient draco force to me and more than 8 people with some of your explanation indicating a vague number.


Either way regardless of the "fiasco" and all that jazz as it is for those involved and their own personal skill, my topic is more or less about the GM's words and the "behavior" that occurred from a suspended guild in which she warned/suspended yet still happens to make a mess causing her and her new guides even more issues.

[Kole1]

it was maybe a sufficient force with 2 clerics but not once they gate as soon as they see draco. The clerics both gated and told everyone to wipe.

The rest was bad luck. In terms of the "behavior" you speak of. From our perspective this was our behavior. Having some fun in an empty zone, we aggrod a mob. We gated and wiped. The rest was out of our hands. Besides from a damage shield or some random pet responding to AoE, I trust that not a single member of the expeditionary force that was there tried to actually damage draco.

We know we are raid suspended--do you really think we would risk anything further ? On our list of things to do last night, train the shit out of BDA and ruin their night and have them try to get us banned was not one of them.

[Kole1]

and im done posting goodbye

[Mcbard]

This sounds like a good plan.. also I think VD should attempt some VP dragons and nobody should train them for attempting!

Stop being assholes and spread some goodwill for a few more days! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Amelinda]

Originally Posted by PureLo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sounds like a sufficient draco force to me and more than 8 people with some of your explanation indicating a vague number.


Either way regardless of the "fiasco" and all that jazz as it is for those involved and their own personal skill, my topic is more or less about the GM's words and the "behavior" that occurred from a suspended guild in which she warned/suspended yet still happens to make a mess causing her and her new guides even more issues.

Dear Ex-Taken member & new Bad Kids member - i thought you and I were friends. Why are you *SO* *FUCKING* *MAD* at me?

If you are bitching about inconsitancies then how about this - maybe i'm fucking tired. Ever consider that? Maybe i'm exhausted and worn down and when I try to take a break I get messaged in IRC or my guides need me so they text me. Or I walk past the computer and see some tom foolery going on. I have the right to take time outside of the game but people don't fucking understand that and that's why i posted sets of rules today. So quit Dissecting everything I say, Laminin.

Sick to fucking death of people ASS uming they know what the fuck is going down. Messages from people complaining about Peruns punishment. How do you know what his punishment is. How do you know I didn't change my mind on what the punishment is? since friday it has been non-stop messages from people who are crying about their banned accounts (2-boxers) or people who are crying about being suspended or raid suspended. and people crying about shit that is just flat out none of their business. it has been ABSOLUTELY non-stop.

and i've said it several times on the forum here before. My dad JUST got out of the fucking hospital and i've been taking care of him and taking care of the server when i can. He had emergency surgery the saturday before last and he came home this past saturday. HE is my priority - not you people. And you need to quit assuming that everything i say is a broad fucking sweeping statement. If there are inconsistancies then maybe, just maybe, I'm fucking tired. Or maybe, JUST MAYBE, you are nitpicking shit to death or reading something wrong.

And do you realize how dumb you are being "OMG they were in the wrong place at the wrong time FUCKING SUSPEND THEM"

Jesus fuck. let it go.

that is the dumbest damn argument i've ever heard TBH. until i receive fraps that SHOWS Me that they were actively DPSing Draco down and raiding then i'm not going to punish them. They were in fear and Draco spawned on top of them. They did their very best to get out of the zone and not interfere with other raids.

IF they buffed a raid or helped a raid by kiting for them during the kill or killing their trash etc. or engaging the mob then i could see it.

*editing to add* yes. i'm being a bitch here. I'm sick of being attacked.

[Chloroform]

Amalinda, if u want us to take u seriously STOP POSTING in rnf. lol

[Flunklesnarkin]

I'd help the ninik dude out lol.. let me know if you get something going


53 cleric so i can provide a bit of help heh.

[Szeth]

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Amelinda caught my boxers with her night light. Skeelz

A wild Sean Bean appears.