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[Botten]

Originally Posted by Homesteaded [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know that those atrocities are not due to Religion, they are due to the inherent sinful nature of man(laid out in the Bible).

Nearly all atrocities done to man, are by man.

But but but man did that not Christianity. Christianity ain't a thing without its deranged believers. And there are some class acts. Homesteaded seek real mental health from a psychologist.

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Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I meant modern, you are speaking historically. And I think killing others in the name of your religion is a failing of man, not necessarily the religion

Religion isn't a thing without its believers. So yeah Christianity can be faulted.

[Homesteaded]

Originally Posted by Botten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You literally didn't read. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I said that you know, I meant it.

[Botten]

Originally Posted by Homesteaded [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I said that you know, I meant it.

So, brainwashed. Admitting the problem is the first step to getting out of a cult. Now get a psychologist.

[unsunghero]

Quite a lot of work to bang out here at gym, BBL

[Homesteaded]

I suspect the disconnect here is another definitional change that no one asked for.

Cult != Community

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh ya I agree with all that. It’s just some stuff from the Bible, because it was written so long ago, is hard to apply to modern day

I do like the teachings of Jesus. I get hung up on “suffered for all of mankind’s sins” part, but it’s probably me being overly-analytical. I think, suffered how? Torture and crucifixion? That’s pretty brutal, but other humans have suffered far worse than that. Young children used to be a popular torture/sacrifice target in primitive cultures. So what’s particularly special about Jesus’s suffering?

I do think that without religion we are far more susceptible to give in to hedonism and nihilism. But atheists will still argue that you can be a humanist, and try to do good for others, without praying to a higher power. It’s a pretty decent argument, I lack a great retort for it

Crufixion stuff is more important because Iesus is God or whatever.

Born in flesh with us to dwell
Iesus our Immanuel("God with us")

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Homesteaded [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My wife and I finally found a church that we like. Officially joined it about a month ago. We all enjoy it. The kids are even seeming to be okay with it, they do have donuts though.

We go to church on Sunday, we also attend a small group during the week. This is roughly 10-15 adults, everyone brings the kids, everyone brings something to make a complete meal. Hosting rotates around the group. The wife and I haven't hosted yet but we hope to soon. After the meal, the kids go and watch a show while an older child, usually the preachers daughter watches them. For about an hour, the adults sit around and have what I'll call adult, in-depth conversations about all sorts of things usually around faith and the church but it's impacts stretch well beyond those two topics.

We are relatively new to the group and so far I've heard some very intimate things about these people that I've just started to get to know. It's hard for me to be as open as they are, I'm really jealous and I hope to get to that point soon. This week two of the members opened up to us about what I would call serious issues they are having or have had. It's so great to be around this level of conversation and honesty. It's been great to be apart of a community where it's not all judgement and angling. The group and the church feel like home. I'm sharing this because I think it's something that we as a society need more of. Open and honest, judgement free talk about our inner thoughts.

It's certainly not my idea but I firmly believe much of our societal woes are due to the complete abandoning of faith. Jesus lived. Jesus laid a groundwork for the good life. It's not easy, in fact it's harder to life that life than not.

Thoughts and Prayers

You should tell them about the forum, in detail.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Botten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Religion isn't a thing without its believers. So yeah Christianity can be faulted.

The only difference between an atheist and a religious person is the atheist believes in 1 less god than the religious person.

But it makes no difference because either way they both believe in something and dont know shit.

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