BIS Wizard. Is it worth it?

[Toxigen]

ill take a bis enchanter over bis bard any damn day

but there are a ton of classes id put way under bis bard tho

[busted]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

busted, If you add up how much AC is on your bard’s gear, what number does that come to?

AC is ok (magelo calc seems low/off tho). Here is my magelo https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Blue:Phenomic . As you can see still not BiS in may places. Dex focused build. Might swap it around when I get a primal. But I do love my procs. 150rune + 80hp lifetap boost my HP at least 1k per fight

Before white dragon helm I had https://wiki.project1999.com/Helmet_of_the_Crawler which people don't like but it seemed like a big mitigation boost to me (maybe just in my head)

[Jimjam]

Nice gear!

Thank you for sharing!What are you struggling to tank in KC with 300 worn ac?!

[Keebz]

Essence mace but no primal? Do primals just go for infinite on blue these days?

[busted]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nice gear!

Thank you for sharing!What are you struggling to tank in KC with 300 worn ac?!

Hey thanks. Still a work in progress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.].

Nothing stopping me in KC it's easy. I just never go there. For beefier dudes like verix, I would need to get out the charm guns to survive.

I prefer seb for fun.

Aside - Checkout melatunin's youtube for amazing bard feats https://www.youtube.com/@melatuninthevirtuoso3659

[Vivitron]

I enjoy raiding on a wiz, but I'm an altoholic and DKP is always in short supply. It's either spend it on the Wizard or one of the other classes I play. The others being Ranger, SK, Necro and shaman respectively.

I have access to Somebody Else's Nicely Geared Wizard. I agree it's a fun raid toon. He geared it with the clickies (except mana stone) and a big mana pool, but not a ton of +hp on it. It seems like a pretty good cost/effectiveness trade off. I don't know enough about wizards in vp though so that's a blind spot for me.

I think it makes sense to start out with the low hanging fruit on multiple characters, and by the time you get that sorted you may have a feel for whether you want to chase bis on one of them.

I don't reach for the wizard outside of raids. That doesn't mean it's wrong to bis a wizard -- I've seen guildmates happily chase bis on their favorite chars even if they aren't great solo/small scale classes -- but to me it would probably take some of the motivation out of it.

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Does going bis on a bard scale well outside of raids?

It's no monk, but I don't regret gearing my bard concurrently with my enchanter.

My primary non-raid goal as I improve my bards gear has been solo challenges. Like busted suggested seb ABC/Disco/Crypt and similarly difficult mobs are in reach -- for example I killed Hiero toe-to-toe without mez or worts and I was hyped for that (got the cloak, probably the last upgrade I will be able to self solo on my bard).

I have done some solo farming on him too; did coldain skin boots/gloves for a while, a few ww dragons, and enough droga to faction a couple of my characters with the skins/salts.

I'm missing ring 10, regal band, and many stat pieces, but have arguably bis held items.

My enchanter *is* more widely useful in small scale stuff and has higher value solo options, but I'm not blocked by gear check on him and it's nice to have the bard available as a change of pace.