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Old 09-11-2024, 11:03 PM
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I like how warriors get the least number of actions (activated abilities, spells) by default, but have access the most varied number of spell proc/clicks out of any class.
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Old 09-12-2024, 01:53 AM
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They get some good procs (slow and snares mainly), and targeted shrink is cool, but "most" is a stretch.
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Old 09-12-2024, 10:32 AM
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What class gets access to more weapons with unique procs or clickable items?
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Old 09-12-2024, 12:50 PM
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Well the casters that have the best clickies with stuff like haste, runes, soul well, rez, lures, ports, etc, etc. Not to mention Manastone is effectively unusable by warriors.

I think the only unique warrior clickies are cobalt (correct me if wrong)? Meanwhile, the other melees have shit like clicky haste, insta invis, FD, Symbol, soothe, illusions, etc. So easily at least on par with shrink.

For procs I'd say they are up there and there's a valid argument here, but Rangers also get the snares and slows and a bunch of novel (if bad) high damage procing weapons. The Bard/Shadow Knight epic procs are also notably defining.

Warriors get the _most value_ out of trivial clickies and procs because they have no abilities, so it feels like they have more.
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Old 09-12-2024, 01:38 PM
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Warriors can't channel

So the shit should be mega sketchy in combat

For a while they were channeling.

SK and pally for utility and invulnerability.
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Old 09-12-2024, 03:17 PM
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When warriors could 360’ full speed sneak, infinite z taunt, sneak pull, invis pull and battle-bandage my god halfling warriors were gods!

… well, not compared to velious monks, maybe, but compared to unbugged warriors they were!
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Old 09-12-2024, 03:22 PM
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When warriors could 360’ full speed sneak, infinite z taunt, sneak pull, invis pull and battle-bandage my god halfling warriors were gods!

… well, not compared to velious monks, maybe, but compared to unbugged warriors they were!
Jimjam and Gandalf know wassup. All those "bugs" were just their heart's being true.

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Old 09-12-2024, 07:09 PM
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Well the casters that have the best clickies with stuff like haste, runes, soul well, rez, lures, ports, etc, etc. Not to mention Manastone is effectively unusable by warriors.

I think the only unique warrior clickies are cobalt (correct me if wrong)? Meanwhile, the other melees have shit like clicky haste, insta invis, FD, Symbol, soothe, illusions, etc. So easily at least on par with shrink.

For procs I'd say they are up there and there's a valid argument here, but Rangers also get the snares and slows and a bunch of novel (if bad) high damage procing weapons. The Bard/Shadow Knight epic procs are also notably defining.

Warriors get the _most value_ out of trivial clickies and procs because they have no abilities, so it feels like they have more.
You're comparing warriors against every other class at once. Sure, other classes get a few of each of the clicks, but I challenge you to pick a class that has as many that are so diverse.

Also, manastone is the best way to stay zerk.
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Old 09-12-2024, 08:12 PM
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Also, manastone is the best way to stay zerk.
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…. I honestly never would have thought of using one that way.

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Old 09-13-2024, 12:45 AM
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That's because you think of manastone as a scarce item. Using it to zerk came immediately to mind when I was making my warrior on PQ. Even called myself Berserker.
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