Iksar Shaman - Solo Challenges? - Page 92

Jimjam · #**911** 04-10-2024, 01:00 PM

I don’t believe levelling speed is a valid predictor for solo challenge hinderance.

That said, Jbb barb may have best level speed and a barb is top of the shaman solo challenge list… maybe you are on to something.

DeathsSilkyMist · #**912** 04-10-2024, 01:05 PM

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I don’t believe levelling speed is a valid predictor for solo challenge hinderance.

That said, Jbb barb may have best level speed and a barb is top of the shaman solo challenge list… maybe you are on to something.

Leveling speed is not everything, I agree on that point. It's fine if you end up taking a less efficient route, as long as you are having fun.

Some people do want to know which leveling strategies are the best, however. We still need to provide the objective information as to which leveling strategies are the best. Using JBB will improve your leveling speed from 45-60.

The Solo Challenge list is irrelevant when it comes to determining which items/racial abilities are objectively the best for a Shaman. Please stop confusing people just because you want to be silly. Everybody agrees that all Shaman races can accomplish the same things on the Solo Challenge list. The Solo Challenge list doesn't change facts such as FSI being superior to Racial Regen at level 60 with Torpor, or that JBB is a useful item.

Jimjam · #**913** 04-10-2024, 01:12 PM

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Some people do want to know which leveling strategies are the best, however. We still need to provide the objective information as to which leveling paths are the best. Using JBB will improve your leveling speed from 45-60.

Not for an iskar. Just a waste of a bag slot. Spend that pp on a friend to hit 60 and begin challenges earlier.

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Everybody agrees that all Shaman races can accomplish the same things on the Solo Challenge list.

There's the answer to the thread!

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The Solo Challenge list is irrelevant when it comes to determining which items/racial abilities are objectively the best for a Shaman.

Please expand.

DeathsSilkyMist · #**914** 04-10-2024, 01:18 PM

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Not for an iskar. Just a waste of a bag slot.

Indeed. Nobody has claimed an Iksar should buy a JBB. OP was wondering if they should pick a different race because Iksar's can't use JBB. That is why we are discussing the merits of JBB, so OP can decide if Iksar is right for them.

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There's the answer to the thread!

As I keep saying, people want actual answers to questions. Nobody would be posting new threads on this forum if the answer was always "just do whatever you want, it doesn't matter". If you find Min/Maxing fun, you want to know which racial bonuses and items are objectively the best.

You can certainly provide the caveat that the differences between Shaman races are not extreme, due to the high power of the Shaman class. However, some people find it fun to have a character that is 2% stronger than every other Shaman race because they picked the best race for the class. I am not sure why some posters are so resistant to giving other posters real information on these forums.

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Please expand.

I know you are just being silly right now, but I'll indulge you. Players can do everything a Shaman can do on the Solo Challenge list without FSI, for example. However, FSI factually makes solo challenge fights faster and easier.

Some people want to make solo challenge fights faster/easier. Mobs in Everquest can have long respawn timers. Some mobs take quite a bit of setup to pull and get into a position to kill. You could also have mobs taken from you if you die. Another player could be watching your fight to see if they can snipe the kill.

If you gave the best player on the Solo Challenge list a BiS Ogre Shaman, they will factually be more efficient at completing the solo challenge fights than if they were using a BiS Barbarian. This is because FSI will help in the fight, where a Barbarian's XP bonus would not.