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As a wiki admin myself I already have the "power" to make that happen, so I wouldn't need any new privileges to work on such a project. But the "power" isn't really the issue. The issue is the staff has done things a certain way for ten years, and things have gone great (with some hiccups) for ten years here. They're not going to want to even just move the rules into a single wiki page without thinking over all the possible repercussions, and they certainly aren't going to add rules that they've never even made explicit before today into the official rules without some thought as well. Like I said, I just hope they can find a win-win that lets them continue operating as successfully as they always have, while at the same time making more of the "secret" rules less secret ... and Menden's posting of those rules here gives me immense hope that that's possible.
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I'm new to the server (as a regular player, popped in here and there before this more serious play session) and I've spent a lot of time at two camps : Sarnak Courier, single spawn point (20 hours over 5 days) and Ancient Croc, Uguk (level 30-37).
Not once, at either, were there ever a single problem - and tons of traffic at both. People are very polite and respectful and many will buff, and then ask if it wasnt too much trouble if they could be next in line and send them a tell. Too many rules just makes it easier for a jerk to break them. (stories: 1. I asked a level 50 on the AC camp if I could kill the Crocs, because they are decent XP, if he got to keep the loot. No problems. 2. I Once I sold a pair of GS Leggings for 100 plat to a guy who didn't want the XP there but really wanted the leggings for a alt. The 100p let him move on and me get the camp. The very next spawn was an AC, that dropped another pair. I tried to give him his money back but he refused and instead, he bought them off of me for full market price to give to another alt. Anyway, think it's pretty simple and while these are lower level camps the same common sense and kindness can apply. | ||
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I'll defer to Llandris to give a ruling on this one, I have a decent understanding of the mechanics of that zone but I believe he has spent more time in it than I have. Quote:
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If a player/group is holding multiple camps in a zone, that's fine as long as no one else wants them. As soon as another player/group wants one the camps the holder gets the option which single camp they prefer. The new player/group gets to pick their camp and the rest become FTE unless both players/groups work out a deal to split them up. But players must communicate in some fashion so there is no conflict. So, what Loramin said was pretty darn accurate. A more specific situation that comes up often is Bards and Nobles in hhk, many, many players consider this one camp. But based on the guidelines above, this is a dungeon type zone. So LOS/Agro guidelines come into play even though they are fairly close to eachother. So if a player is holding both and another player shows up, the original player needs to pick one. Sirken always told me, camp in the room that has the target you want. | |||||
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And that's how things normally go on the server, a few bad apples cause problems [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I'm glad you've been having great interactions with players. | |||
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Thanks for taking the time to respond Menden!
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Goblins are kinda weird. It depends which server you played on live there were different rules. Some said it was a single camp, others said it was 3-4 camps. We go by los/agro, so it could be 4 camps.. but who wants that? Guards are the same thing, agro/los. Players try to claim entire floors, doesn't work that way. | |||
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I honestly did not expect this to be such a big post. Originally I just wanted clarification on a singular issue due to a lack of response to either /petition or /report (Which I now see is disabled. Message was hidden in a tiny spam chat window I have) after having what I thought was a proper camp taken over by someone else and being told to shove off. Then having a mod show up to chastise me when I do the same thing to someone else the next day.
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Now clearly I had the camp... it had been around 20 minutes past the first spawn and the shaman wanted the camp back. I won't name the shaman, but he can feel free to pipe up if he wants. He claimed he didn't know he was in a race. Well, ok, but two things: 1) I am sitting there with a charmed pet and I am there before you (you are 20 minutes late of first spawn). You should at least say something if you think there is a contest. and 2) You can't come back 20 minutes after the camp respawns and retake it with "I didn't know it was a race". If I am wrong about this, please inform me of the correct rules. Ultimately, since I don't want to be a dick, I just let him take the camp, broke my charm, calmed my pet, and logged off. edit: Now my thoughts are these kinds of infractions are not worthy of petitioning someone. I also consider my server reputation when I let people push me off a camp. I'd rather the rules be clearer so I don't have to take a server rep hit nor cause someone to be suspended or banned because of some misunderstanding. | |||
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