Better solo artist -- Monk vs paladin?

[Keebz]

I'd love to see some high end Paladin soloing videos. I think Opmeter has done some impressive things.

IMHO high end hybrid play is much more satisfying than high end monk stuff, which is just faceroll + abusing all/all clickies.

[Crede]

OP considered a Necro? Basically everywhere I killed 50+ on my twinked hybrids a Necro could do better. Fantastic class, and you can solo some pretty gnarly stuff when geared. Probably the most fun I’ve ever had playing this game despite my melee twinks having 500k+ worth of gear. Having fd, harmshield, heals, rez, evac, respectable pets, charm, mez, and crazy mana regen feels like playing the game on cheat mode.

[enjchanter]

paladin is way more gear dependent than a monk. Monk with epic/haste/fungi will beat pally in every way
paladin with that same gear will be like 40% as good

[Crede]

Originally Posted by enjchanter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

paladin is way more gear dependent than a monk. Monk with epic/haste/fungi will beat pally in every way
paladin with that same gear will be like 40% as good

It really depends on the zone. I’d rather take a pally to kedge than monk. Between lulls, dispels, root, stuns etc mermaids could easily destroy a monk. But if I’m going to CoM I’d rather just try to plow through as a monk. In the hole probably a monk due to the high level rock golems. In HS id rather be a pally(unless maybe you have beads which won’t apply to OP)

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It really depends on the zone. I’d rather take a pally to kedge than monk. Between lulls, dispels, root, stuns etc mermaids could easily destroy a monk. But if I’m going to CoM I’d rather just try to plow through as a monk. In the hole probably a monk due to the high level rock golems. In HS id rather be a pally(unless maybe you have beads which won’t apply to OP)

Agreed. Shadowknights and Paladins have more ways to deal with casters, which makes them quite nice in some zones. The only thing monks can do is get great resistance gear and pray hehe.

[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by enjchanter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

paladin is way more gear dependent than a monk. Monk with epic/haste/fungi will beat pally in every way
paladin with that same gear will be like 40% as good

Back when push interrupt and combat bind wound were possible? Or sneak pulling and all/all soulfires? When knight 2h dmg was gimped? 100% agreed with the general sentiment, monk > paladin. Now though? Idk. No one class beats another class "in every way". That's the beauty of EQ and the imbalanced state of its classes. Different levels, zones, and encounters make for situational usefulness where one class might shine, with the other standing in their shadow, and vice versa. With the exception of narandi crown, paladin gear is cheap af and tuna/vulak weaps are no joke. Monk's item list is much more extensive/expensive in terms of pp and dkp, even if better overall.

Paladin doesn't need haste with root joust. It doesn't need fungi with dwbp. It doesn't need epic with any of the high dmg/dly velious drops.

[Keebz]

Originally Posted by enjchanter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

paladin is way more gear dependent than a monk. Monk with epic/haste/fungi will beat pally in every way
paladin with that same gear will be like 40% as good

Have fun attacking through 4 CH's and eating nukes.

[Kirdan]

I think it varies as others have said. I also think there is a wide range of what people think of when they say soloing. Just grinding xp solo? Yeah the decked out monk is going to do better than the decked out pal. Taking on difficult solo challenges? Mixed bag. If it's a slowable target, monks can try slowstone but with limited chances to land it. Paladins can use willsapper and have a lot of sustain to last until slow lands. On the other hand, some solo challenges favor the monk. I doubt a paladin can solo phinny, for example.

Have fun attacking through 4 CH's and eating nukes.

Forlorn totems work just as well as paladin stuns to stop heals/nukes.

[Jimjam]

Btw op solo artist usually means overgeared and killing targets intended for groups or even small raids while solo.

[Keebz]

Originally Posted by Kirdan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Forlorn totems work just as well as paladin stuns to stop heals/nukes.

My comment was specifically in response to "Monk... will beat pally in every way". My point is without clickies doing something trivial like killing a cleric is a massive pain, while a Paladin can just stun the big spells. And if we're gonna talk clickies, now that Soulfire is Paladin only that's quite a bit of extra sustain for big game hunting, likely enough to take down ole phinny.