Why do people say SK's do more DPS than Paladins?

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Really common misconception here about sk pets. The max one at 52 will quad for 39 and the max one at 58 will quad for 46. This is honestly no joke, and puts sks ahead of paladins for group content dps.

Yes, use your pet. Do damage. Kill more.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by long.liam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can anyone Confirm the Skill caps for Paladins and Shadowknights per the wiki. It says paladins get higher piercing, but shadowknights get slightly higher offense. I don't have a level 60 of either class otherwise I wouldn't be asking.

SKs do have a lower piercing cap. My SK is capped at like 207 at 58. Not sure about offense, would need to double check what my current skill number is. Don't have a paladin to compare offense skills either.

To OPs question, SKs do out DPS paladins in any solo/group content. They have a pet, lifetap proc, and an exclusive attack buff via shroud of hate.

Raid DPS isn't really relevant for knights. Neither are DPS classes in raiding. You bring paladins for buffing and soulfire, you bring SKs for some specific pulling in VP.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Just doing a quick parse on a few mobs in Howling Stones, my 58 SK was doing around 58 DPS with https://wiki.project1999.com/Ancient...ched_Flamberge , 54% haste, and Shroud of Death procs.

The SK pet did about 12 DPS with 20% haste, so the pet is boosting an SK's DPS by around 20%. I don't think a Paladin has anything in their toolkit to boost DPS by 20%. This doesn't include SK spells, but obviously casting spells causes melee DPS loss for both Paladins and Shadowknights.

[Toxigen]

SK might do more damage but a Paladin is going to clear a room a lot faster.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

SK might do more damage but a Paladin is going to clear a room a lot faster.

How so?

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How so?

paci, root, deepwater bp

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

paci, root, deepwater bp

That depends on the camp. SK's have Paci in any undead zone. SK's also have fear kite, which means they don't need to heal in-between encounters.

I would be curious to watch a video to see how quickly a Paladin can clear an area, so I can do a similar video with my SK.

Basically a Paladin has more CC, but is going to kill slower and they need to heal in between fights.

An SK doesn't need to heal due to fear kite and they kill faster, but it takes time to set up the fear kite for each mob.

[Jimjam]

Sk has snare+fd which can be handy for splits.

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That depends on the camp. SK's have Paci in any undead zone. SK's also have fear kite, which means they don't need to heal in-between encounters.

I would be curious to watch a video to see how quickly a Paladin can clear an area, so I can do a similar video with my SK.

Basically a Paladin has more CC, but is going to kill slower and they need to heal in between fights.

An SK doesn't need to heal due to fear kite and they kill faster, but it takes time to set up the fear kite for each mob.

lets line em up...you've got 3 levels on mine should be easy right?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lets line em up...you've got 3 levels on mine should be easy right?

Sounds good! Name the camp you want to do and I'll do it too. We can compare videos to see who did it faster.