Eliminate MQ

[Penish]

literally everyone who actually 'plays' uses SEQ

omg did you not know?

[Solist]

Originally Posted by Rimitto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

bags inside of other bags was 100% a classic era thing. I specifically remember trying to figure out the whole "size" issue because I kept putting smaller bags inside of bigger bags and filling those smaller bags. The encumbrance of walking back from blackburrow was the real struggle.
It wasn't just "empty bags" though, you could put items in other bags that were inside bags. It was bag-ception.
P99 is vastly different that you can't put containers in other containers.
I assume because it probably caused some sort of glitch or problem that they didn't have a solution to.

With how long it took them to fix boats and their workarounds to fix boats I can't blame them. The minor illusion spell also seems like a quick-fix on p99. Actually, MOST of the illusion spells seem to be a bit of a quick-fix. They probably don't have some type of server files or something and can't replicate them.
Minor and Tree are most noticable.

Just a heads up about the bag-ception thing... looking back, it didn't really offer all that much benefit. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
At least, it didn't when I was a newbie, since it took so long to get back to town to sell stuff. It granted more inventory slots, sure, but at the same time, it really weighed your character down HARD.




is this the second account you're gonna get banned on for harassing people trexller? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bags inside other bags was a LDON era patch.

It exists on P99 due to latency issues. I can buy bags fast enough to fill a bag with bags at 500ms latency, as the client inherently can. In classic/velious ui/pop ui the client could not put a bag within a bag.

[Solist]

Originally Posted by Sonark [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wtf do you mean "the tools to know about it" ?

The "tools to know about it" are:
Hey you. Fuckface. This is how you MQ shit.

That's it. That's all the tools.

And MQs still work up to Luclin, but Luclin got around them by creative means, and it wasn't until PoP when they actually patched them out.

To this day on Live, you can still MQ everything in Classic that you always could MQ, because someone CRACKED THE DA VINCI CODE, and said:
Hey. Fuckface. This is how you MQ shit.

I do agree that, even to this day, the whole mystique of the concept scares and confuses people. A buddy of mine on Live was doing one of the sub-quests for Mage epic and thought he had completely bungled it by handing in a wrong piece, and one of the right pieces for the quest, and I was just like "nah man, you have until basically a server reset or someone else has the hand-in pieces to fix this" and didn't have to re-do everything like he thought he did.

Yep absolutely.

We MQ'd stuff all the time back then. Jboots most obviously (in early kunark era for sure, I can't recall doing so before then as I only played for a few weeks pre kunark). I absolutely mq'd my chardok ring from rogue to monk in the early luclin timeframe. We did a lot of armour mq's in velious.

As far as classic, genuine classic I can't be sure but beyond that it was fairly common and well known.

[PatChapp]

Yeah I bought a boot mq shortly after kunark launched

[Rimitto]

Originally Posted by Trollhide [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is absolutely incorrect, you could not put a container inside another container in classic EQ. It wasn't until much later that this was added, and only allowed empty containers. "Bagception" sounds like a fever dream you had.

you say much later, but my memories have time-dates on them and they are pre-2003.
That means, specifically, that bags in other bags were a mechanic you did not know about and apparently they became an issue that was "patched" later in the post 2003 era. So much for your "everyone knows everything" angle of omniscience. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This was 100% early velious/late kunark era when this was going on.
I can state this so confidently because by 02 and 03 I was hanging out with other people and wasn't playing everquest anymore.
It could've been luclin era, but with ultimate certainy, it was way before LDON.

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The best part about this is Rimitto accidentally admitting to hacking in classic EQ lol

Ah to be a fevered zoomedboomer and looking for any grasp you can to hook into your target like a leech. Unfortunately for you, hacks didn't exist back then, or if they did, I was not aware of em. I bet you learned all of your sources off google who told you the internet was invented in 1917. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're like a woman preaching the end of the world. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Rimitto]

Originally Posted by Sonark [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wtf do you mean "the tools to know about it" ?

The "tools to know about it" are:
Hey you. Fuckface. This is how you MQ shit.

That's it. That's all the tools.

And MQs still work up to Luclin, but Luclin got around them by creative means, and it wasn't until PoP when they actually patched them out.

To this day on Live, you can still MQ everything in Classic that you always could MQ, because someone CRACKED THE DA VINCI CODE, and said:
Hey. Fuckface. This is how you MQ shit.

I do agree that, even to this day, the whole mystique of the concept scares and confuses people. A buddy of mine on Live was doing one of the sub-quests for Mage epic and thought he had completely bungled it by handing in a wrong piece, and one of the right pieces for the quest, and I was just like "nah man, you have until basically a server reset or someone else has the hand-in pieces to fix this" and didn't have to re-do everything like he thought he did.

It's amazing that you think the boomers and gen x were as forgiving and generous as the millennial generation running games now. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Half the time they wouldn't even talk to people that didn't pose with L's on their foreheads. There was extreme class warfare back in the 90's where if you weren't part of the "in" crowd, you simply didn't have access to the information. Real Big Hording.

I like that you've ousted which side of the hording you were on with your statement that "everyone knew" though. Makes it real fukin simple to see how the rest of this pans out. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]


Same Shit, Different Era, Eliminate MQ

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by Sonark [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To this day on Live, you can still MQ everything in Classic that you always could MQ

No you can't, they changed it for specific quests.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Rimitto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you say much later, but my memories have time-dates on them and they are pre-2003.
That means, specifically, that bags in other bags were a mechanic you did not know about and apparently they became an issue that was "patched" later in the post 2003 era. So much for your "everyone knows everything" angle of omniscience. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This was 100% early velious/late kunark era when this was going on.
I can state this so confidently because by 02 and 03 I was hanging out with other people and wasn't playing everquest anymore.
It could've been luclin era, but with ultimate certainy, it was way before LDON.



Ah to be a fevered zoomedboomer and looking for any grasp you can to hook into your target like a leech. Unfortunately for you, hacks didn't exist back then, or if they did, I was not aware of em. I bet you learned all of your sources off google who told you the internet was invented in 1917. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're like a woman preaching the end of the world. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol love how this guy acts like everyone should just take his "memories" as facts. That's not the way it works bud.

As far as your other response, hacks did exist back then. And as another commenter noted, the only way you could have been putting bags within bags in the classic era was to use a certain hack to do it. So if you were doing this in the classic era, it means you were hacking.

[Rimitto]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol love how this guy acts like everyone should just take his "memories" as facts. That's not the way it works bud.

As far as your other response, hacks did exist back then. And as another commenter noted, the only way you could have been putting bags within bags in the classic era was to use a certain hack to do it. So if you were doing this in the classic era, it means you were hacking.

You're right, your memories being incorrect is not how it works. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You being a bot however, is a guaranteed fact. Why can I say that so confidently? well you've done absolutely nothing but start arguments and enflame arguments this entire time, like a certain other 3 letter mega-industry that we're most familiar with.

You've offered no resources yourself other than to counter-point and simply say, in whatever the argument, that the other person is wrong and then offer their inverse argument as your argument. This is a logical fallacy even in medieval times. A certain Rene Descartes points this out in one of his most infamous statements "if I am to choose and choose wrong then I am wrong, if I by chance happen to choose correctly, then I am also wrong." or something to that extent.
Simply put, it means that no logical action was taken on your part.

Whether you believe me or not, it doesn't matter, since the fact that I was putting bags in other bags, and as far as I'm aware, there were no hacks back then, let alone any specific hacks that would do this one specific action in one specific game at one specific time in history that you seem to be so confidently aware of and the complete expert on. Kinda weird if you ask me. Simply put, you overplayed your hand bot-boy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only true memories I have from EQ back in the day are of erudin, qeynos, and blackburrow, since I never made it that far into the game. Of all the things I encountered, I remember plat being dropped, encumberance weighing me the hell down, having multiple bags in other bags(and subsequently emptying them when I realized they added extra weight), being able to do gold drops, and buying a spell for some guy in the mage guild in qeynos.... and of course all the trains in Blackburrow.


I noticed someone else mentioned that someone said there was a lag glitch with the bags. Perhaps I was experiencing that then, because back then, a lot of the country, including my area, did not have the best internet. Don't remember if we got cable or were still on aol back then.
26ms was a pipedream.

I'm betting you probably have never experienced the aol days though, huh bot-boy? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Duik]

A bot telling us how to human.
Platinum plated Golden Silver a PlatGolVer if you will. Have it for ShanksGiving.
Also, as Troxxigen has said the bot owner has taken over (at least partially) the Rimitto persona. My guessbis you are pissed your ruse was discovered so quick. Now you are attacking poor people cuz you are butthurt.

Bring back the bot. Or not. I dont care what it learns or if it learns.