"boxing test" should not be used by GMs

mythrope · #1 03-17-2022, 11:39 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8vTSUsjG2M

I was recently banned by the Project 1999 GMs for "boxing" for getting power-leveled by a guildie that could not complete the boxing test. I performed the test which was figure 8's around the fountains in Unrest and passed myself, however the other person could not citing they were using a laptop and did not have a mouse leading to them not being able to successfully run while doing figure 8's (modern laptops disable trackpad input when keyboard keys are engaged).

This video demonstrates the following.

1. Figure 8's with default setup without mouse (i.e. using laptop with trackpad)
2. Figure 8's with default setup with mouse
3. Figure 8's with strafe setup with mouse
4. Inability to do figure 8's while in motion with strafe setup without a mouse (i.e. using a trackpad on a laptop that is force disabled when keyboard keys are engaged)

The "boxing test" fails to account for individuals that may very well NOT be boxing; but due to their setups are forced into failure by the GMs given the current "boxing test" does not account for alternative setups or lack of a traditional mouse.

TL;DR/DW "boxing test" will generate false positives for people with non-traditional setups and bans for people not boxing. I'm also probably going to quit P99 because this is ridiculous you can be banned for something outside of your control.

Blistig · #2 03-17-2022, 11:52 PM

Yeah guys, come on!

mythrope · #3 03-18-2022, 01:46 AM

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Yeah guys, come on!

Why are you antagonizing the situation? This is uncalled for, I'm pointing out a legitimate flaw in the test that isn't being addressed Blistig.

Trexller · #4 03-18-2022, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Blistig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah guys, come on!

really? a staff member trolling?

why do you even pretend to give a shit about the rules, when your "friends" (donors) constantly and blatantly abuse the rules with nary a wimper about it

we all know you guys play the game and raid, even tho you aren't supposed to as GMs, you guys are probably among those who run scripts at raid events.

from the guide application:

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Note: You cannot Guide on a server you actively play on

These days it really seems as though your application of P99 rules, is as rigorous as your application of the concept of "classic" to everquest.

and yet, you expect to have a community of players who believe in the project, respect the game, and others who play it.

got screenshots of this thread, in anticipation of its deletion.

mythrope · #5 03-18-2022, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

really? a staff member trolling?

why do you even pretend to give a shit about the rules, when your "friends" (donors) constantly and blatantly abuse the rules with nary a wimper about it

we all know you guys play the game and raid, even tho you aren't supposed to as GMs, you guys are probably among those who run scripts at raid events.

from the guide application:

These days it really seems as though your application of P99 rules, is as rigorous as your application of the concept of "classic" to everquest.

and yet, you expect to have a community of players who believe in the project, respect the game, and others who play it.

got screenshots of this thread, in anticipation of its deletion.

Thank you Trexller, I message Rogean on Discord because Blistig's behavior is uncalled for. This is a legitimate concern and they are poking fun at it. Yes, it is well know they break the rules themselves in the community and isn't talked about for fear of being banned. Since I'm already banned, it doesn't matter. I hope Rogean or someone with higher authority that does not come to troll (Blistig is a senior GM, mind you) can weigh in on how this "test" has innate flaws.