DPS: Monk vs. Warrior vs. Rogue vs. Ranger

[Toxigen]

warriors tanking unslowable mobs with max DS is fuckin baller dps

[WarpathEQ]

General convention is Rogues are the highest DPS, monks and warriors compete for second, and rangers are 4th.

I've seen each of the 4 classes at the top of parses so as previously stated gear is typically a bigger factor than class so results can vary greatly.

While I think there is some validity to "raid geared" toons having more similar comparables there is still a massive disparity in items. Being HoT geared vs. NToV geared, vs. Vulak geared and very different worlds

And of course tanks can get a huge boost by loading up on damage shields

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by WarpathEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

General convention is Rogues are the highest DPS, monks and warriors compete for second, and rangers are 4th.

I've seen each of the 4 classes at the top of parses so as previously stated gear is typically a bigger factor than class so results can vary greatly.

While I think there is some validity to "raid geared" toons having more similar comparables there is still a massive disparity in items. Being HoT geared vs. NToV geared, vs. Vulak geared and very different worlds

And of course tanks can get a huge boost by loading up on damage shields

To clarify, the data I was using is with top raiders who have a lot of BiS or near BiS peices already. HoT gear is more like pre-raid gear honestly. Most people wouldn't consider an alt in HoT armor to be raid geared.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by WarpathEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

General convention is Rogues are the highest DPS, monks and warriors compete for second, and rangers are 4th.

I've seen each of the 4 classes at the top of parses so as previously stated gear is typically a bigger factor than class so results can vary greatly.

While I think there is some validity to "raid geared" toons having more similar comparables there is still a massive disparity in items. Being HoT geared vs. NToV geared, vs. Vulak geared and very different worlds

And of course tanks can get a huge boost by loading up on damage shields

DS is huge and rangers have the worst avoidance, making them the best DS tank.
Keeping them alive is the cleric’s problem.

[Vivitron]

Typically I see rogues taking the top of the parse, but the top monks outdamaging the majority of the rogues. This is the top monk's damage as a % of the top rogue's damage from some parses:

Tunare: 78%
AoW: 80%
Tunare: 83%

Not sure how it would differ selecting average damages instead of top.

[Snaggles]

I wouldn’t put the average 2h offensive disc Warrior (especially if zerking) in the world of rogues. Not as a general practice. It’s a segment of a segment and while technically accurate is not what people tend to show up to do.

Assuming all warriors do monk and rogue dps most the time is how we get 70 page threads that don’t hold up to normal parses.

Warpath stated it very accurately. Dps tends to fall exactly where you expect it to, with an occasional freak outlier. Rogues do insane dps per plat/dkp spent.

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rogues do insane dps per plat/dkp spent.

Thats the key right there.

Epic, Lodi Belt, SWC, save all DKP for primal. Fill the rest in with HP / resists because odds are you're gonna be STR capped. Pick up some raid scraps after primal if you're wanting to live longer without spot heals. You won't be that far off from the sweaty vulak/vyemm rogues that weapon swap.

[Jimjam]

I have had a brain fart. Please remind me - what is SWC an abbreviation of?

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have had a brain fart. Please remind me - what is SWC an abbreviation of?

spirit wracked cord: 100 hp, resists, aura of battle which stacks with all other AoB (lodi belt in this case)

oh and can be worn shoulders, arms, or wrist so can slap it in your worst spot and move it around in case of upgrades

its a pain in the nuts to get but 100% worth

[Snaggles]

A rogue with a MH Epic and tolerable offhand won’t be top dog on Tunare but will consistently deliver impressive numbers if played correctly. Get all the buffs possible, don’t let haste fade, don’t die mid-fight or enrage.

All the good stuff makes any class much better. The rogue is just broken though for what you can get from a 30k pp MQ. It’s basically Kunark doz loot…