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Old 10-30-2024, 01:34 PM
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I think as it proliferates so too does the recognition that it's an incredibly flawed technology ripe for abuse.

Elon wants to reign it in but of course I am now programmed to reflexively oppose anything he does for some half-baked ideological reason.
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Old 10-30-2024, 01:56 PM
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Education is ripe for abuse, the current policy trends with AI is like teaching only certain kids (rich kids) certain things.

Making 2 interents, one for the "responsible people" (rich kids) and another limited one for the rest.

We're cooked.
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Old 10-30-2024, 06:20 PM
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But not being able to even talk about history with the AI? That is horrificlly dystopian. And we're just getting started!

Basically we're cooked.
I didn’t know about the history issue. I was catching up with my cousin at a Halloween party last weekend and he said he had AI write an entire tabletop DnD campaign for them

But he said the AI would refuse to write descriptions of violence. I was like how the hell do you write a sci fi fantasy story involving combat without descriptions of violence, wtf?

Maybe it was just that one AI he was using though
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Old 10-30-2024, 06:46 PM
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We live in a very dangerous time. Not becuase people can make high quality sexual themed fan art with AI.

But because AI is going to remove all critical thinking from all people.

Right now when I ask chat GPT questions about history, I often get this response:



This is asking about historical facts, that are considered "offensive" to modern society. Like, for example, I was asking about different causes of the enlightenment, and it told me it was not able to answer that question.

This is really sad to me. Im confident in 10 or 20 years, the average person will think that whatever the AI says is true, and that it's good that it prevents us from knowing the full story about most things.

At first I was worried that technologically speaking, civilians will be at a massive disadvantage to those that actually control the most powerful AI systems. Because, we as a consumer wont be allowed to use it. While they as the owner will in secrecy.

But not being able to even talk about history with the AI? That is horrificlly dystopian. And we're just getting started!

Basically we're cooked.
Its been already like that for 200 years, try telling an old person to eat more saturated fat and cholesterol.
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Old 10-31-2024, 03:54 AM
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So all squares then?

Or…?
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Old 10-31-2024, 02:00 PM
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So all squares then?
That's right, it goes in the square hole!
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Old 11-01-2024, 03:10 AM
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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/23/t...-suicide.html#

I skimmed it. He had at one point expressed having those thoughts to the AI bot, which rather than do the responsible thing and direct him to a hotline manned by professionals it requested he not go through with it. Not the worst thing it could respond, but again not the responsible thing to protect life

The kid then was typing how he wanted to be with her and she asked him to come home. The kid apparently had the deluded belief that by dying he would go to the AI world or something

Again I only skimmed it, so my cliff notes might be off
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Old 11-01-2024, 12:14 PM
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you didnt read it because it is a terrible article. he was ignored and judged. how would you even spot "mild aspergers"?...didnt they say aspergers when they couldnt pin autism on someone?
No mention of the drugs he was on is curious
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Old 11-01-2024, 12:52 PM
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you didnt read it because it is a terrible article
I will admit, NY Times is not one of my preferred publishers. I had first heard about the situation I think from a MoistKritical vid

Still, speaking in generalities without any facts (my preference lol), responsibility for a teen suicide is in order of significance: The teen’s > the teen’s parents > everyone and everything else. IMO
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Old 11-01-2024, 12:57 PM
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didnt they say aspergers when they couldnt pin autism on someone?
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