Why isn’t Kittens cat calling Riot for crying wolf?

[Boptop]

feshkek

[Arvan]

Backfire thread from man who doesn't even know what he's crying about anymore

[Praxcthius]

ah took me a while to find the correct thread. Someone posted the yada yada about fesh and dagarn. Well plz don't leave out the entirety of content when trying to form your narratives.
Bagels <KWSM> — 02/28/2021
@CSR Looking for clarifications on FTE lockouts and double FTEs. I know on mobs that can't be single engaged, or difficult mobs in the way of an easy mob a smaller raid force can kill are allowed to be momentarily engaged to move a raid force, but am looking for clarification on a large and ready raid force FTEing an open mob right in front of them, only to not fight it and move past for another target.

Tonight Vanquish got FTE on Lord Feshlak with 100+ raiders standing on him ready to fight him, called Dagarn as target instead, and ran past, and fought Dagarn while continuing to FTE Fesh (All FTEs pictured Vanquish):

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...21/unknown.png

Kittens isn't the only ones curious about what's allowed here, Vanquish officer Detoxx posed a similar question (while in Freedom) when the roles were reversed a few months ago:

eqlog_Bageljuice_project1999.txt:[Sun Oct 18 13:14:06 2020] Detoxx says out of character, 'how is that accidental? you are at fesh'

If this is allowed we will assume there is very limited situations where you become FTE locked on a target as long as you clarify you didn't want to. Thank you for any clarification on this issue.

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March 8, 2021

It was called in ooc what target was. You guys know this. We know this. no use rehashing about it. but you always leave off some snippet that doesn't fortify what you want to happen. concessions/bans/suspensions etc. There at the end kwsm bageljuice implies that you guys would already be willing to accept in rarer situations that bypassing one raid mob for another is acceptable. Before we go on some KT/CT double fte thing where you try to say this or that. This previous issue is specifically targetted to raid mobs in the same zone. Just read it slowly.
Yeah it's at the end of his entire statement.

[xdrcfrx]

Originally Posted by Praxcthius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ah took me a while to find the correct thread. Someone posted the yada yada about fesh and dagarn. Well plz don't leave out the entirety of content when trying to form your narratives.
Bagels <KWSM> — 02/28/2021
@CSR Looking for clarifications on FTE lockouts and double FTEs. I know on mobs that can't be single engaged, or difficult mobs in the way of an easy mob a smaller raid force can kill are allowed to be momentarily engaged to move a raid force, but am looking for clarification on a large and ready raid force FTEing an open mob right in front of them, only to not fight it and move past for another target.

Tonight Vanquish got FTE on Lord Feshlak with 100+ raiders standing on him ready to fight him, called Dagarn as target instead, and ran past, and fought Dagarn while continuing to FTE Fesh (All FTEs pictured Vanquish):

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...21/unknown.png

Kittens isn't the only ones curious about what's allowed here, Vanquish officer Detoxx posed a similar question (while in Freedom) when the roles were reversed a few months ago:

eqlog_Bageljuice_project1999.txt:[Sun Oct 18 13:14:06 2020] Detoxx says out of character, 'how is that accidental? you are at fesh'

If this is allowed we will assume there is very limited situations where you become FTE locked on a target as long as you clarify you didn't want to. Thank you for any clarification on this issue.

19
March 8, 2021

It was called in ooc what target was. You guys know this. We know this. no use rehashing about it. but you always leave off some snippet that doesn't fortify what you want to happen. concessions/bans/suspensions etc. There at the end kwsm bageljuice implies that you guys would already be willing to accept in rarer situations that bypassing one raid mob for another is acceptable. Before we go on some KT/CT double fte thing where you try to say this or that. This previous issue is specifically targetted to raid mobs in the same zone. Just read it slowly.
Yeah it's at the end of his entire statement.

drugs

[mycoolrausch]

Originally Posted by Praxcthius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ah took me a while to find the correct thread. Someone posted the yada yada about fesh and dagarn. Well plz don't leave out the entirety of content when trying to form your narratives.


It was called in ooc what target was. You guys know this. We know this. no use rehashing about it. but you always leave off some snippet that doesn't fortify what you want to happen. concessions/bans/suspensions etc. There at the end kwsm bageljuice implies that you guys would already be willing to accept in rarer situations that bypassing one raid mob for another is acceptable. Before we go on some KT/CT double fte thing where you try to say this or that. This previous issue is specifically targetted to raid mobs in the same zone. Just read it slowly.
Yeah it's at the end of his entire statement.

The server rules are pretty clear though

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The only acknowledged exceptions are "obviously accidental" such as FTEing Cekenar while Sevelak is up, because it's impossible not to, or a lone rogue wandering out for SoW while their guild is on Aary and doesn't know LTK is up and FTEs it.

Apparently a guild can decide for themselves what constitutes "obviously accidental" at their convenience now though. My guess is if you can bring 100 people to fesh and stand on top of him with a raid force, you can have a lone zoner catch a pathing CT fte. YMMV.