Spells: Resists dont match up to live

[Verdu]

Originally Posted by Nizzarr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If youre enchanter spells land more than 50% of the time, theres clearly an issue on resists.

What effective MR do you have after being pillaged and tashed?

Is your effective MR still over 100?

MR over 100 and magic effects should rarely land. I don't think root ever landed at over 100mr on live. A Snare might slip through, but it was exceptionally rare, and blind would never land at 100+ mr.

FR/CR was around 150 to be able to start getting consistent full resists.

I'm all for changing the resists to match up to what they were on live, but that will be very hard to do without developer notes from that time frame. There was no public data on the resist calculations.

[Crazycloud]

I did fight a lot in pvp -- I was rolling solo most of the time and I knew I couldnt do shit against most people due to enchanters being gimp in pvp.

I will never listen to this dudes opinion ever again after this statement... Enchanters were the SHIT back in the days period.

[Nirgon]

Hopefully we can keep things in a positive light considering this is the best implementation I've seen (minus the whole whirl thing)

[Nizzarr]

Here's logs of 8 starfires with 150 fr:

[Thu Dec 22 20:49:20 2011] You feel the glare of the heavens. You have taken 612 points of damage.

[Thu Dec 22 20:44:48 2011] You feel the glare of the heavens. You have taken 612 points of damage.

[Thu Dec 22 20:44:36 2011] You feel the glare of the heavens. You have taken 302 points of damage.

[Thu Dec 22 20:43:07 2011] You feel the glare of the heavens. You have taken 536 points of damage.

[Thu Dec 22 20:40:22 2011] You feel the glare of the heavens. You have taken 296 points of damage.

[Thu Dec 22 20:39:15 2011] You feel the glare of the heavens. You have taken 289 points of damage.

[Thu Dec 22 20:39:01 2011] You feel the glare of the heavens. You have taken 271 points of damage.

[Thu Dec 22 20:37:07 2011] You feel the glare of the heavens. You have taken 499 points of damage.

So what can we make out of these limited tries? Resists are useless. Thats 10 slots of resist gear to get 149 fr and no full resists, some even landed full. I'm missing a golden diamond mask and a drakescale belt for the max FR in classic.

What does resists like these promote? Zergs - even in full resist gear, you cant resist anything from worst geared people. Whats the point then?

Current solution: get HP gear, hope you have enough MR to resist the crowd control spell and forget about any other resists -- they're useless. Mass recruit people to your guild and hope they know how to cast a nuke, cuz that nuke will land no matter what!

[Darwoth]

8 casts show nothing, try doing hundreds like i have done.

in your paltry 8 casts you took half damage 50% of the time and partials 25% of the time

at 149 fr that looks almost identical to classic, but as i understand your from a blue server and wouldn't know that.

[Szeth]

Darwoth not knowing Nizzarr actually hails from PvP server. Owning himself.

[lethdar]

Originally Posted by Szeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Darwoth not knowing Nizzarr actually hails from PvP server. Owning himself.

Why would he? Nizzarr got 60 on SZ and quit before anyone on other teams were within 5 lvls of him. Szeth self owned.

[Darwoth]

lovely said he was from a blue server, if he was on sz at any point during the time i played there it is news to me.

[Szeth]

Lovely =/= Nizzarr

[Cast]

Was looking for darw/nizzarr to do some tests just now but neither online

I'm in full agreement with this as muc has I troll. I never even partialed a spell until 50 (well tbh Ive just been sitting on 49 if that makes a diff). I was stuck in a spot today in guk and nizzarr casted 4-5 starfires on me which the highest partial was not even 50% and I had 197FR with my song going...

before that I ate some mage bolts with same FR and one hit for full and the other partialed for something like 60-70%. MR I think is somewhat in line but FR (and assuming CR) is borked.