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View Poll Results: PvP expansions | |||
Release all content after Kunark integrated into old world zones | 7 | 21.21% | |
Release every Velious zone but no expansions after | 26 | 78.79% | |
Voters: 33. You may not vote on this poll |
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#61
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I voted for the wrong one. Wehrmacht, I cannot understand the way you phrase things sometimes.
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#62
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its skewed
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#64
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thank you
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#65
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Anyway, if you take away all those zones that spread out people then you take away options. With no options a PvE player is a sitting duck waiting to be killed. That's when they leave the server and you guys rape each other because your population left. What makes this even less reasonable is the fact that Sullon Zek was already too hard for most. Heck, Rallos Zek was too hard! Since most players are PvE then it stands to reason that any amount of open PvP, 4 or 6 level limit or no limit at all, is discouraging for most players out there! No matter what you do on a pvp server you're going to have a limited population unless you have a game that can appeal to PvE players without compromising their fun. If PvE players can choose not to participate in the PvP or they have an equal chance at competing regardless of how well geared another player is (or how much they play) then population will be strong. Anyway, what I'm saying is that if you make it easier for people to PvP then you're not going to tap into the PvE players out there. A PvP-centered mmorpg is a niche at the present time. Leaning in the PvP direction will have a dramatic impact on your population. You do that at your own peril. If you make pvp fair for all participants, regardless of time played or gear, and players can choose to avoid pvp, then you will be able to succeed in an optimal manner. Alternatively, if you just simply lean in the PvE direction then you can pull more of them in. For example, by giving PvE players more options to avoid PvP. Instances were the crown jewel to avoid PvP. Large numerous zones is another way - although less effective than instances - to avoid PvP. The difference is that instances completely remove PvP while large numerous zones just reduce it and give PvE players more warning - like to /camp or track or gate or port or etc. In the years that I was playing on Sullon Zek I usually only went to zones I had a deep knowledge of. This allowed me to escape PvP in a lot of cases by exploiting this knowledge. I also could track them so I knew when things were bad. Quite a few times I didn't even need to camp. It was a skill all by itself knowing how to avoid PvP. You would go to ANY zone in the game even if the gear was obsolete. That's why on SZ everything was so expensive. Items didn't mudflate as fast on that server. And even if PvPers owned the latest expansions or the best items, it didn't matter, if they couldn't catch you! That was another reason I liked it. The worst pvpers were the MQR's that cheated because they wanted PvP so bad. But make no mistake, I fed off the challenge. I liked the atmosphere. I look or desire for hardcore stuff like that even now. And yes I got killed probably several dozen times. I killed maybe a dozen in my whole career. There's nothing like being a noob in blackburrow and a level 25 comes in (nancy or someone - in 2001-02) and kill you over and over whenever they get the chance. AFter a while, if you talk to em (don't be an ass), they might leave you alone. But anyway it was in those beginning stages that I started to thrive on the challenge. The most evil thing I ever did was snare a noob in the commonlands. You really learned on SZ quickly whether you were truly meanspirited or not. You also learn who is your friend and who is just using you for kicks.
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Last edited by stormlord; 05-29-2011 at 11:59 AM..
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PvP dropped in PoP?
If by PvP you mean cross faction healing (immortal healing) jackrabbits who couldn't solo without a pocket healer to save their lives? Then the PvP dropped off about... kunark... Sullon Zek died about a month after it opened because people got sick of it all being so damn one sided. Sony put absolutely no thought into spawn locations or the fact you could lose faction with your own freaking race due to spawn points being right on top of one another for all sides. The reward system was stupid and it wasn't item loot.
Everquest PvP went to hell in a hand basket about the same time they decided to take item loot out of the game. But prior to that it wasn't much better because it was a caster game where melee's got roflstomped. /thread | ||
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#67
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i guess i change my mind.. if you are able to /who a zone and see who is in it, or even just how many ppl are there, then it could still prevent the problem of ninja-raiding without any pvp.
you just wont be able to hunt specific targets or follow a group around when they port away with their druid [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] i really liked porting around like that, actually i had more fun trying to escape than chasing i guess /anon is better for the PvE aspect/ppl | ||
Last edited by Pudge; 05-29-2011 at 01:17 PM..
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