P99 is a custom easy mode server

[azxten]

Never forget everything that has happened on P99 occurred with EQEmu channeling code. Level 1 you have 70% success rate compared to 30% in classic. You're basically a level 40 caster starting at level 1. Finding this out and putting in the work for this bug report is what ruined P99 for me.

https://project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=395675

I don't know what the staff thinks about this because they haven't said a word since I originally told Nilbog I was looking into this and he said he would check it out. I believe he said something like "next week." So did they change anything? Are they using stock EQEmu channeling? I don't know but I do know I confirmed on P99 at level 1 you've got ~50-70% success rate when I started this research.

So even if they want to provide the usual snarky response after months/years of ignoring the community, I'd contend it's a dick move to tell someone you're going to look into hours of work they put into your project then ghosting them when it seems to reveal the server is wildly unclassic and basically easy mode.

Just remember every single time you channel a spell you're experiencing custom easy mode EverQuest. Especially if more than one mob is hitting you because EQEmu just applies an adjustment for multiple attack hits up to a cap around 15 but in classic every hit required a separate channeling roll and if any of them failed you wouldn't cast.

This is before we even get into things like experience rates, raiding, and all the other easy mode aspects of P99.

[loramin]

I hear Quarm is going to at least have "close to classic" resist rate: maybe not Velious era, but at least Luclin era.

Originally Posted by Torven [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Regarding resists: TAKP's resist system is modeled off of the resist revamp that occurred late into Luclin, which is mostly what is still used on Live. A Sony dev posted pseudocode of it a decade ago and I parsed a ton of logs so it's quite accurate. It is however more forgiving than classic to Velious era resists in most cases, not harsher. I've no clue on the specifics of p99's implementation so I can't say how it compares to p99. Classic era resist logic is high on my wishlist of things I'd like to know.

As for P99 ... Nilbog has been working to recreate classic here for over a decade here. That's a really long time!

I 100% agree with you about P99 being "easy mode", and I've been been the old man yelling at a cloud about it in these forums for years. But at the same time, I've had a ton of fun on this "easy mode" server, and I'm extremely appreciative of Rogean's, Nilbog's, and any many others' efforts to let everyone play here.

If, after more than ten years, Nilbog has given up on keeping it classic, and he's ok with keeping it "easy mode" ... well, I think he's earned that [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Rygar]

I'm sure calling him out here will motivate him to reply to other people in the future. Good job OP.

Also beware the "seemingling easy" fix that may really be a rat's nest of client hacks that may be very technically challenging to incorporate into a server that has been patched for 15 years with bandaid code.

[azxten]

Originally Posted by Rygar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm sure calling him out here will motivate him to reply to other people in the future. Good job OP.

Also beware the "seemingling easy" fix that may really be a rat's nest of client hacks that may be very technically challenging to incorporate into a server that has been patched for 15 years with bandaid code.

Holding people accountable is important. I've donated money to this project. I've contributed code changes. I'm going to continue pointing out that the staff have seemingly abandoned this project or are embracing a custom server path.

They have bait and switched the community that supported P99 and seem to be fine appealing to people who have no notions of what classic EQ was like in order to maintain a population here and reduce any effort on their part to actually provide a classic experience.

All the excuses about volunteers, time constraints, it's their project, and so on are just that. They're excuses for the people running this project who aren't keeping their word. A lot of people here played and contributed because we believed the staff would continue to promote classic EQ in the way they had years ago when all of this started.

That has all changed though and although the now expected lack of communication offers a lot of room for speculation, none of us know why they act the way they do. Many of us are sick of dealing with it though and this includes former staff who also quit because of inaction and apathy. I'll continue to express my displeasure with the direction P99 has taken as a long standing community member who was given financially and technically to the project.

[Seducio]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm extremely appreciative of Rogean's, Nilbog's, and any many others' efforts to let everyone play here.

This is my general stance on the server. Although I would never volunteer my time here based on way too many observations of seeing folks not get appreciated for their contributions. So I get you OP.

P99 really should be open source for what it is offering. The fact that it isn't is something that gets more and more indefensible over time.

OP in the long run the server you wish for will emerge.

The tools exist now if you really wanted to build your Field of Dreams.

Cheers

[mycoolrausch]

Harder doesn't mean more challenging. It just means more limited. More limited in what classes are effective in a certain situations, more limited in how many people you need to bring for a certain encounter. Etc.

Modern MMOs "nerfed" "easy mode" things like pack splitting into single pulling. Nobody think it made those games more challenging. You just have to fight the packs a specific way with a specific number of people. It's more limiting and more boring. The channeling nerf seems much along these lines.

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by Seducio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is my general stance on the server. Although I would never volunteer my time here based on way too many observations of seeing folks not get appreciated for their contributions. So I get you OP.

Rog-Bog aren't running this for appreciation

[Infectious]

Originally Posted by azxten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Never forget everything that has happened on P99 occurred with EQEmu channeling code. Level 1 you have 70% success rate compared to 30% in classic. You're basically a level 40 caster starting at level 1. Finding this out and putting in the work for this bug report is what ruined P99 for me.

https://project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=395675

I don't know what the staff thinks about this because they haven't said a word since I originally told Nilbog I was looking into this and he said he would check it out. I believe he said something like "next week." So did they change anything? Are they using stock EQEmu channeling? I don't know but I do know I confirmed on P99 at level 1 you've got ~50-70% success rate when I started this research.

So even if they want to provide the usual snarky response after months/years of ignoring the community, I'd contend it's a dick move to tell someone you're going to look into hours of work they put into your project then ghosting them when it seems to reveal the server is wildly unclassic and basically easy mode.

Just remember every single time you channel a spell you're experiencing custom easy mode EverQuest. Especially if more than one mob is hitting you because EQEmu just applies an adjustment for multiple attack hits up to a cap around 15 but in classic every hit required a separate channeling roll and if any of them failed you wouldn't cast.

This is before we even get into things like experience rates, raiding, and all the other easy mode aspects of P99.

Bozo got curved by Nilbog and now thinks he speaks for the community.... LOL. Channeling is perfect here. Go critique else where you clown.

[magnetaress]

don't forget to put agi in ur stats

[magnetaress]

#meetoo also

like i can't play on p99 even tho i love what they did for the community they are retired tho

i actually had one of these once in a data center like a real fuckin data center with multiple floors and access to big backbone pipes and halon and fuckin security with uzis ok

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and we where running some mail service on this lil bitch

i imagine this is what p99 is now

and that is OK

no need to hurry it along ppl will def fall ill and into despair along with this projects demise

OP is 100% right tho and I called that shit 60 years ago today