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Old 12-14-2022, 05:06 PM
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Extinct is extinct. Time is time.

Whats 40,000 to 400,000 to 40,000,000?

"Dinosaur" is just a word. Doesnt actually mean a species or group of creatures.

Are 100 million year old bacteria dinosaurs?
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Old 12-14-2022, 05:06 PM
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Out of curiousity, how big are you willing to entertain? Keep in mind elephants can exceed seven tons or so and blue whales--truly monstrous creatures--readily exceed a hundred tons. Within relatively recent history (ie, within historic times) creatures like moas and elephant birds reached ten or twelve feet tall, larger than any still-extant birds.
Elephants and Blue Whales are easily observed and living animals actively being studied today

Dinosaurs are not
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Old 12-14-2022, 05:13 PM
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Extinct is extinct. Time is time.

Whats 40,000 to 400,000 to 40,000,000?

"Dinosaur" is just a word. Doesnt actually mean a species or group of creatures.

Are 100 million year old bacteria dinosaurs?
Doesn't it mean 'terrible lizard'? Terrible as in great
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Old 12-14-2022, 05:17 PM
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"Dinosaur" is just a word. Doesnt actually mean a species or group of creatures.
https://www.sciencefriday.com/articl...word-dinosaur/

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When Sir Richard Owen, a naturalist and paleontologist, took a look at the three fossils together, he had a stunning realization: Unlike contemporary reptiles, both the Megalosaurus and Iguanodon had five vertebrate at the base of their spine that appeared to have fused together during their lifetime. Owen hypothesized that the same was true of Hylaeosaurus—something that would link the three mysterious species together.

He catalogued his observations in an 1841 edition of Report of the British Association for the Advancement of Science: “The combination of such characters… altogether peculiar among Reptiles… all manifested by creatures far surpassing in size the largest of existing reptiles, will, it is presumed, be deemed sufficient ground for establishing a distinct tribe or sub-order of Saurian Reptiles, for which I would propose the name of Dinosauria.”

Owen had compounded two Greek words: deinos, which means “horrible” or “fearful,” and the previously used sauros. The result: A terrifying lizard.
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Doesn't it mean 'terrible lizard'? Terrible as in great
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Old 12-14-2022, 05:36 PM
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All reptiles are not lizards.

Stromatolites are not dinosaurs. 3,500,000,000 years old.

Not a dinosaur.

They either existed before you were born or they didnt.
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Old 12-14-2022, 05:49 PM
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There are not a 'ton of trex skeles'
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Old 12-14-2022, 06:04 PM
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Elephants and Blue Whales are easily observed and living animals actively being studied today

Dinosaurs are not
So? That's not the question. How large an animal can you accept? After all, plenty of ancient dinosaur species were medium or small even if the big ones generate the most public notice.

Modest-size dinosaurs are alive today. We call them birds.
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Old 12-14-2022, 06:15 PM
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https://youtube.com/@HistoryoftheEarth

Really good channel. I don't 100% agree with everything butt they make a solid effort .
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Old 12-14-2022, 06:29 PM
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So? That's not the question. How large an animal can you accept? After all, plenty of ancient dinosaur species were medium or small even if the big ones generate the most public notice.
It's not a question of size. None of the bones you observe in a museum are real Dinosaur bones. Period. If you as a layman ever asked if you could inspect real Dinosaur bones you'd be laughed at

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Modest-size dinosaurs are alive today. We call them birds.
lol Dino feathers

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Yes I read your comment. The actual answer is 1 that was only recently 'discovered' a few years ago after falling during a duel with a Tricerotops

Just like a Disneyland! Wow so fantastical. What a find!
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Old 12-14-2022, 06:47 PM
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It's not a question of size. None of the bones you observe in a museum are real Dinosaur bones. Period. If you as a layman ever asked if you could inspect real Dinosaur bones you'd be laughed at
Technically correct since fossils aren't bones, strictly speaking, but that doesn't mean anything practical insofar as the discussion cares. It was a question of size because of your earlier comment making fun of "giant monsters." If you deny the existence of all ancient extinct species, that's a broader claim than I understood you to be making initially.
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